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  1. tarjiem

    Done.
    Actually, I am happy with the current design. Things that I never used is a screen reader. Because its depend on local language.
    I hope the redesign result should be better.

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  2. John Jr

    Hello Sarah Gooding,

    Thank you for letting us know about this, I would not have known about it otherwise.

    I am a WordPress.com user, but I took the survey anyway and I hope that it actually makes a difference this time.

    -John Jr

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    • Sarah Gooding

      Thanks for reading, John!

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    • Alec

      I took the survey as well. Thanks for keeping us up to date Sarah. My main take is that the destructive quality of the WordPress editor should come to an end. I.e. the wpautop filter which means switching between visual and code

      It’s high time for coloured syntax highlighting as well. Every other editor I use has syntax highlighting at this point.

      There’s an in-depth conversation about screen readers and the code editor on Trac. As none of the good open source code editors offer accessibility, some in the WordPress development community are advocating for staying with a plain text editor. Others are advocating adding many advanced features to the plain text editor for screen reader users while offering an advanced visual code editor at the same time. I.e. treating both screen reader users and non-screen reader users as high priority use cases. The alternative is the rather unpalatable depriving everyone of an advanced code editor.

      it’s a very interesting conversation with lots of well-argued views. The current decisions about the WordPress visual editor and code editor will shape the WordPress experience forever (okay not forever, for the next five years).

      For those interested, here are all the filters run on the current WordPress editor:

      wptexturize – makes fancy quotes etc.
      convert_chars – HTML special chars
      make_clickable – makes the plain text links clickable
      force_balance_tags – makes sure there is no broken HTML
      convert_smilies – Emojis
      wpautop – without this the linebreaks are lost

      A few should surely be optional (wptexturize, convert_smilies, make_clickable). The main one which should go is wpautop as it is responsible for mangling html every time a writer switches from visual editor to code editor. It’s why it’s so hard to post code reliably in a WordPress website without adding a custom editor or turning off the visual editor.

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      • John Jr

        Thank you for sharing that information Alec.

        -John Jr

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      • Georgio

        The biggest issue I have with the editor for years is the fact when I paste my code, I end up swearing because it gets changed or parts get removed. DON’T TOUCH MY CODE!!!! I find that I have to always keep my editor in the HTML tab view.

        WP is a content management system, and it needs to respect my content 100% and what “I decide to do with it”.

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  3. Sander

    How does wptavern find out about the surveys because I don’t see them marketed anywhere. I would like not to miss any future ones.

    Does it get promoted on social media for example? Getting 50 responses on a survey that affects 27% of the internet’s websites is not good enough and points to awareness problems. I would have expected thousands of responses.

    Also I believe moodle built its own accessible rich text editor and is open source:
    https://docs.moodle.org/dev/Atto
    https://moodle.org/plugins/view.php?plugin=editor_atto

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    • sarah

      They are published on the WordPress development blogs, but I don’t think many regular WP users read them.

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      • Georgio

        They don’t use the development blogs…which are for developers, hence the problem. .org does not focus on social networking very well, in fact, they are horrible at it. People in general do not subscribe to or visit the development blogs, news sites, or document based sites. For something as big as getting feedback from the “end user”, the WP team should hire a marketing survey team.

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