1. Otto

    Yeah… Not gonna lie, so far, I really dislike it. Sidebar is on the left instead of the right, that scroll bar, the widths are annoying with so much useless whitespace on most laptops, that scroll bar, the customize options are lacking, that scroll bar, it’s very bright by default and thus hard to read, that scroll bar, and the sidebar is first in the html code which is not good for readers or seo. Also, that scroll bar.

    Still, it’s new. I look forward to the improvements.


  2. Japh

    I’m loving Twenty Fifteen so far!

    I think the scrollbars between the side bar and main content area could work a little better together (scrolling to the top of the content doesn’t scroll to the top of the sidebar).

    But otherwise, I’m really liking it so far! Have decided to use it for my personal site, and anything I find that needs fixing I’ll hopefully get to contribute back :)


  3. kflint2013

    Look Ma! Frame-sets are obviously back!

    The 3d scroll bar that will be different by browser and OS parked right in the middle really brings out the flat in the design don’t ya think? Like an old Palm layout lovingly nested in frames of an OS 7 era browser.

    Though somehow when the scroll bar _doesn’t appear all_ the demos remind me of wedding invitation samples. It is going to be a weird year in WordPress land.


  4. HateTheDay

    another vote goes for “not like it so far”. It’s to simplistic, it doesn’t have any personality. To plain. But than again, pretty sure I won’t use it anyway.


  5. Ryan Hellyer

    I like the design when at the correct width and with correct amount of sidebar content. But that scrollbar and the weird spacing on the right hand side look like bugs to me. I’m not sure if they’re intentional design features or not.


  6. Brin Wilson

    I can’t help think these types of fixed-sidebar themes are better suited to WordPress.com users – since they don’t really allow for ads etc in the sidebar… the fixed-sidebar really takes up too much screen real-estate (and doesn’t let it go as users scroll down) – in my opinion. Although they do look kind of nice and simple and are, of course, great for folk who really just want the focus all on their writing.


  7. Brin Wilson

    Just saw Otto’s comment above: “Also, that scroll bar.”. Lol… I’ll second that!


  8. Gaurav Tiwari

    I didn’t like it too. There are several free WordPress Themes already available with similar look and features : like Publish. I am expecting proper portfolio support this time. Let’s see how the further development goes.


  9. James Geiger

    It looks good, but I agree it could use some more features…it is a bit boring.


  10. Shapeshifter 3

    Two Frustrating Comments:

    1. Who is it, High Up, that insists that WordPress should remain “Blog” software forever, with “Blog Focused Default Themes” that go back to the “Blogging Roots” of WordPress? I could have sworn that I saw a video a year or so ago, with Matt Mullenweg stating that global WordPress usage was leaning towards that of a CMS. I’m not super intelligent, nor a trained Coder, but I’m starting to think that it would be globally beneficial, if a small group of Core Developers started their own Forked Branch of WordPress as a CMS only. Currently, it seems that “WordPress” is somewhat schizophrenic, and can’t decide whether it wants to create Blog or CMS software. Why not have two separate divisions with two separate Theme Directories?

    2. Your comments about Twenty Fifteen’s creation of a “post title sandwich” has been a continual issue with quite a few of WordPress.com’s recent theme creations, and the developers seem to have no problem with it. Justin Tadlock’s Stargazer theme that WP Tavern is currently using, uses Featured images CORRECTLY as far as I am concerned. I’ve never understood WHY so many themes that offer Featured Images as an option, insist on “doubling up” when displayed on an individual Post. Is that what a smartphone user wants to see on their device AND do they want two images downloaded for each individual Post to eat up their bandwidth?

    I’m done….just some rambling thoughts.


    • Brin Wilson

      “…that insists that WordPress should remain “Blog” software forever, with “Blog Focused Default Themes” that go back to the “Blogging Roots” of WordPress?”
      – Really like this comment; maybe a little brashly put but you’ve absolutely got a point here! I’d also really like to see a much more CMS-focused default theme for once!

      “…but I’m starting to think that it would be globally beneficial, if a small group of Core Developers started their own Forked Branch of WordPress as a CMS only”
      – Oh god no! For all kinds of reasons (like branding and the allocation of resources etc – not to mention general user confusion), this can never (and nor should it) fly!

      …in my opinion. ;)


  11. sanji41

    Another vote for not liking the sidebar.

    There’s a lot of good themes in wordpress repo, that shows how WP can be extend to a CMS. I am still looking forward to this theme and how it will turn out.


  12. Christopher Anderton

    I like it. Needs some more work (and that’s what the post is all about anyway). I see the default themes shipping with WordPress as demo or starter themes with different styles and uses. Maybe Twenty sixteen will be a portfolio/showcase style theme?


  13. Zulfikar Nore

    Another no vote for “that scroll bar” and too much wasted white space!

    Time to hack it away.


  14. John Jr

    Hello Jeff Chandler,

    I would like to thank WP Tavern for keeping us updated about the Twenty Fifteen theme and about other WordPress/Automattic topics that do not seem to get mentioned at/by the official blogs for WordPress.com and the official blogs for other non-WordPress.org Automattic services/products, oddly/disappointingly those official blogs often fail to mention various things that I consider to be important enough to mention about WordPress and Automattic :( , and so if it were not for WP Tavern I would not know about certain things/various things like the progress of the Twenty Fifteen theme (which WordPress.com News, Theme Shaper (which is rarely updated, misses most news about themes, and does not do a good job of getting the community involved in giving ideas/opinions/et cetera on themes), et cetera did not even mention that it was being worked on and offered no screenshots and did not mention the demo website or anything yet except that ideas about the theme were being talked about last year or so).

    Hopefully that did not sound too harsh, I just would like the official blogs to do a better job keeping us updated on various things that they often miss, and for them to do a better job getting feedback from us users through polls/et cetera to get our opinions before making certain changes/et cetera.

    I think that WP Tavern should be listed as an official or valuable blog/website/resource in various areas on WordPress.com so that more people (especially on WordPress.com) can know about it and stay updated on various things that are often missing on the official WordPress.com blogs.

    The demo website for the Twenty Fifteen seems to be online now , and so you might want to link it in your post and/or in your next post ;) :


    Keep up the good work :) ,
    -John Jr


    • Justin

      Here’s the official blog if you’re interested in keeping up with the latest WordPress development, including stuff about the default themes. I’ve been wondering why there was no mention of a demo though.


      • John Jr

        Hello Justin,

        I knew about the Official WordPress.org Core blog already, thanks to WP Tavern (since none of the official WordPress.com related blogs/Theme Shaper/et cetera mentioned it as far as I know), but thank you for sharing the link for those who might not know about it already. ;)

        As a WordPress.com user I think that WP Tavern does a good enough job keeping me updated on most things that I care about that are not mentioned at WordPress.com News, The Daily Post, Theme Shaper, et cetera so for me I do not really need to follow the WordPress.org Core blog or the various other Automattic blogs (Akismet, Polldaddy, After The Deadline, Gravatar, et cetera) as well thanks to WP Tavern. :)

        About the demo, yeah, I think that they could do a better job of communicating (besides the things that they often forget to mention, you will also notice that many people’s comments are not even responded to on various topics like the Twenty Fifteen announcement on the WordPress.org Core blog, even when simple and important questions are asked); but I think that WP Tavern will mention the Twenty Fifteen demo at some point so that other people will know about it, since the official WordPress blogs have not mentioned it so far it seems, which is another reason that I think WP Tavern should be an official WordPress blog and easier to find so that more people will know about it so that they can stay updated on things that are often not mentioned on the official WordPress blogs.

        -John Jr


  15. David Cramer

    Can’t say I’m a fan either. The last two themes have been grounding the blogging platform.

    My personal favorite is Twenty Twelve. That theme is a great canvas.
    I can, however see Twenty Fifteen being used and worked nicely though.


  16. Periskop

    Thatscrollbar Fifteen.


  17. leo

    The twenty fifteen theme current layout are not much different than Wilson, designed by Anders https://wordpress.org/themes/wilson


  18. warmsunkiss

    1. Like the aesthetics (except maybe that scrollbar)
    2. Would like it much more if the sidebar is customizeable in terms of background/color
    3. Assuming the color scheme will be customizeable overall???
    4. Can the “image title sandwhich” please be fixed? That’s not pretty and it will be a definite problem/deal breaker in how I’d like to use this theme.

    Just my 2 cents.


    • Shapeshifter 3


      I don’t know if this is even possible or not, but maybe an option could be added to the Customizer of ALL WordPress default themes, AND All themes created by Automattic, that would allow the end user to easily TURN OFF the “image title sandwich” if they so choose to do so.


  19. christophermccoy

    just added my 2015 child theme to github https://github.com/chrismccoy/fivebeers


  20. christophermccoy

    for linked images, it wont be tied into the gallery group, since each image will be a rel, and this lightbox requires them to be in the same group, via the group attribute, or else no prev/next buttons will show up for the image(s)

    and I won’t be adding to wordpress.org because of the liscense of the strip.js its creativecommons and unsupported for the plugin directory, the only alternative would be for the user to add the js and css manually themselves, and I thought from a perspective on someone with less skills to do this it might be harder.


  21. neha gajjar

    One of the best theme till date, as my personal experience it easy to use and modified if you don’t have too much requirement.. :)


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