1. Jason Witt

    Why? is this really needed?
    It seems like they’re trying to put everything into the customizer. At this rate everything WILL be in the customizer, and they can get rid of the admin all together. Then WordPress will just be a Drupal clone. One of the thing I like best about WordPress is it’s great admin section, so why are they trying to get rid of it?

    There’s just so much more they could be spending their time on.


    • Jeff Chandler

      Just curious, what’s so great about the WordPress backend?


    • Nick Halsey

      The goal is to move all of the “appearance” things to the Customizer, and to encourage plugins to put any options that change the front-end in the Customizer. The Customizer, simply put, offers a much better and more streamlined user experience than the admin, primarily because of the live previewing functionality.

      The other advantage to the Customizer is that it’s easier for themes and plugins to integrate their options there than in the admin, in a way to provides a seamless experience for users.

      If you’ve ever looked into the menus code, you’ll know that it is a complete disaster. Menus in particular need a complete rewrite anyway, which is why the Menu Customizer project is important.


  2. Webmasta

    The new customizer should be completely optional or a filter to enable older full width version without preview should be supplied.

    Just add some 20+ images as random header image with the new customizer. Or 6+ menus with 50 entries each for different site areas, or 10+ widgets in 20+ sidebars.

    Impossible to handle with the new customizer for people without deep WordPress knowledge and understanding. But in real life these are the people who should be able to add content to a WordPress site.

    If you use WordPress as CMS instead of a “look-at-my-latest-video” Blog, the new customizer is a perfect example of very very bad UX.

    Things like the new customiozer kill the simple and straight-forward usability which WordPress is/was famous for.


    • Nick Halsey

      The Customizer is not new, it’s two and a half years old. And it’s arguably much simpler and easier to use than equivalent features in the admin. If you try the Menu Customizer plugin, I think you’ll find that it’s actually much easier to manage menus in the Customizer than the admin, especially with many, large menus. That’s not simply because there’s less space for UI but because the UI is more efficient. And, you can see what impact your changes have on your site as you make them.

      When used properly, the Customizer can actually be much more useful for CMS-style sites than simple blogs.


      • Webmasta

        > When used properly..

        And exactly here is the problem. In real life people like a secretary etc. want/have to edit their CMS in a productive way, they just want to add, edit or remove content.

        They do not want to scroll through screens-high tiny sidebars with barely understandable shortened button texts, no additional information and a useless preview which takes most of the screen.

        Just try my random header images example. Or my widget/sidebars example. The customizer is completely useless for these setups.


  3. daniele

    Ok… it could be nice or not. I think: is not better start to develop multilang functions?


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