1. Frankie Jarrett

    Thanks, Jeffro! I more than happy to talk in-depth about Stream any time, it’s fun :-)


  2. schn

    Seems to me automattic is trying to control entire WordPress ecosystem slowly but surely. First there was the spech about curated list of plugins then came the buy out of WPMU. There was always Jet pack which ties everything up with wordpress.com. WPMU plugins will surely go through this too.

    Now Stream which ties in with WordPress.com. Its a slow but very deliberate process. Not disparaging what wordpress is or what automattic is doing. Just the direction the entire process is heading to ….

    Its becoming closer and closer to what Drupal is except there seems to be a definite control element here when you connect things to wordpress.com.


    • Carl Hancock

      You’ve obviously been fooled by an April Fools Joke post.

      Incsub, the parent company of wpmudev.org, has not been acquired by Automattic nor will it likely ever be acquired by Automattic. It was an April Fools prank posted by it’s founder who has had a historically combative relationship with Automattic, Matt and the greater WordPress community in general.

      The decision to incorporate the WordPress.com single sign in functionality was entirely a decision made by the team at Stream. This has nothing to do with Automattic whatsoever. They could have just as easily went with using Facebook or Twitter’s single sign in API but chose to utilize WordPress.com because it’s more targeted to the market in which they cater to.

      As for JetPack, i’m not sure what that has to do with the conversation at hand other than the fact it also uses a WordPress.com account. But in that case i’m not sure what exactly you would be expecting considering JetPack is primarily geared towards bringing WordPress.com features and services to self hosted WordPress installs.

      Matt and Automattic are not trying to control the entire WordPress ecosystem. The WordPress ecosystem is far bigger than either of them.


  3. Carl Hancock

    I definitely understand the issues that the Stream team is trying to tackle. We encounter them ourselves with our own product. There is functionality that we simply can’t provide the way we’d like to provide it because of the shortcomings of being a downloadable plugin with no control over the server environment in which it is executed.

    The irony here is a lot of enterprise customers want functionality and performance that won’t necessarily be possible in a standalone plugin designed for a MySQL database environment. Especially when it comes to things like analytics, logging, etc.

    I think it’s a great move for Stream and ultimately will make the product far better for all kinds of customers, but especially enterprise customers which typically have more demanding needs and more traffic. Even if some don’t quite grasp that now.


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