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  1. Samuel "Otto" Wood

    Plenty of ways to modify the comment display area in the admin, I feel. Although, changing the ways comments are moderated to be on-the-page sounds more interesting. Not sure, kinda depends on the theme, I’d say.

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  2. Jason lemieux

    This is a cool idea. I’ll have to run it for a bit to get the feel of it.

    Our plan for Epoch is to let the admin see all of the pending comments right on the front end, marked as such. You could then run right through the conversation with hierarchy in tact and mark each comment. It’d be a quick little Ajax request that would turn the comment from gray to fully active, or kill it if spam.

    Would that be of interest?

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    • Jeff Chandler

      I’d definitely like to give that a try though I spend most of my time moderating comments from the backend.

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    • Alec Kinnear

      We added sophisticated front end moderation to WordPress a long time ago with Thoughtful Comments. Thanks for the coverage a while back, Jeff.

      Our plugin is a pretty good co-exister. We plan to test Epoch very soon ourselves on a client site (in place of WP Disquz). I’ll let you know how co-existence goes.

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  3. Stephen Cronin

    Thanks for the feedback Jeff,

    Any suggested background colour? At one point I was going to add in the colour picker, then pulled it back to a custom CSS setting, then thought that was overcomplicating it given it was backend only. So I went with decision, not option. I can add an option if people want it or I can change the background colour to something else.

    The “who said” link goes to editing the parent comment (if user has permission to edit that comment), whereas the link provided by core goes to the front end. Is that useful at all? Or no point? Anyway, I agree that’s not clear, so I will rework it as you suggest (I really wrote this for you!).

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  4. Danny Brown

    Hi Jeff,

    I’m curious as to why you don’t employ filtering by amount of comments approved? Is there a particular reason you moderate all, as opposed to, say, you have 5 approved and you are moved to a whitelist?

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  5. Bigwas

    Blog commenting moderation is a headache only for those popular blogs having more than 10 comments per article published I supposed, but for most of us starting bloggers, its not a problem. I see some blogs where the commenting section is closed and I usually stay away from those kind of sites.

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    • Danny Brown

      Sorry, I don’t agree with that. I often get anywhere from 20-60 comments on a post (sometimes in the hundreds), and I don’t manually approve, they’re all approved and I moderate after.

      I rarely have an issue with spam, as I use an excellent plugin that counters almost all scripts, and the comments that do get through, I simply block the user. Moderation is only a pain if you let it be.

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  6. Knut Sparhell

    Jeff, it seems you changed your comment system on front.

    It’s no longer possible to access a specific comment by its permalink. I have to go to the address bar an click enter after the page and comments are loaded.

    It seems comments are loaded into the page after the page is loaded, using javascript. This doesn’t play with comment permalinks, that points to bookmarks (indicated after a # in the url) and automatically scrolls to get the desired comment into view, as we are used to.

    It breaks WordPress’ comment permalink system completely. I either use the comments RSS feed or the # link in the “Recent comments” widget.

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  7. Steve Media

    Glad to see people working on the comment moderation issue, I’d like to suggest a few more tweaks that would make things a bit easier for wp installs that deal with lots of comments, it may be easy to add these things into the projects being discussed here.

    The wp settings for “if comment has X number of links” hold for moderation – I’d love some options for keeping that setting yet allow some overrides – perhaps by user level, but maybe by amount of approved comments – and it would be nice to allow some commenters to bypass akismet as well.

    I use comments on some pages for ongoing conversations with a few moderators – sometimes they need to post something that has a dozen links in it, and it would be nice if the hold for moderation with comments having more then X (is it 2 by default?) – could be bypassed by my non-logged in users who already have 20+ (or backend select-able amount of) approved comments.

    A couple of my moderators are in different countries that get dynamic ip addys – and often times some of their important posts (err comments) get flagged by akistmet and stuck in the tab I will never see… it would be nice if I could set their email addy, or amount of approved comments to be an indicator to skip akisment completely.

    Not sure if these things are already possible in some way, but it would be super helpful I think for others as well.

    I imagine there may be methods to deal with these two issues if a user is logged in and has a user role (?) – and my moderators do that sometimes.. but on other pages we just use a basic password protected page that only the mods have access to so spam is not an issue on those pages, or with those commenters.

    I can certainly relate to the issue that Jeff is describing in this post – it’s something I deal with on a regular basis and would love to see more enhanced options for making the comment moderation better.

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  8. Steve Media

    I love the idea of having a button / icon / text that people could click to “flag for moderation”- glad to see people think about ” It could have an option that allows me to set the number of flags needed to send an approved comment to moderation.”

    Would be even more awesome if such a thing could take into consideration if a user was logged in (And super awesome if it could have options for giving weight to logged in user levels, either editor / subscriber – or s2member type levels, and the new buddypress user levels)

    for my usage – on wp site “a” – 3 different non-logged-in-users (from different ip addys) click flag- then unpublish, put in moderation que and send email to admin.

    if logged in and role >=contributor then 1 click send to..
    if logged role=subscriber – 2 clicks..

    This is something we have needed more with our buddypress installs than anything – and a discussion we had a while back put some code out there and got a discussion going around what kind of admin options, front end stuff, etc could / should go into something like this for bp.. the code linked to in the first comment here:
    https://buddypress.org/support/topic/report-user-report-abuse-flag-something/
    may have most of this kind of code that is needed.

    If someone does code up something like this, I hope we can adapt to use with buddypress activity updates / group posts /etc.. I’m sure the bbpress people could use something like this as well (they may have something like it, but I gave up on bbpress couple versions agp, so knowledge is limited)

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  9. Stephen Cronin

    Hi All,

    I’ve released a new version of Show Parent Comments, with the following changes:

    * Bug fix: Prevented the plugin from firing during Ajax requests, as we don’t want the parent comment added then (for example when user edits their comment on the front end via Ajax).
    * Enhancement: Simplified the introduction to the parent comment, removing author name and edit link.
    * Enhancement: Tweaked the background colour of the parent comment.
    * Enhancement: Slightly increased the size of the Show More link.

    I am fairly confident that Jeff is going to hate the new background colour as much as he hated the old one!

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    • Jason Lemieux

      Hey Stephen,

      I’ve just taken a stab at the UX on this a bit and sent you a pull request. I tightened it up a bunch and made sniffing out context that much easier. See what you think.

      Jason

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  10. Stephen Cronin

    Hey Everyone,

    Version 0.2 of Show Parent Comment has been released, featuring Jason’s UX changes. I really like it now, it’s much better than the original layout. Thanks Jason!

    I think we’ve probably got a much better chance of Jeff liking this one! :)

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  11. Jeffr0

    Update: There’s a ticket in Trac to possibly add this feature to WordPress core. If you have any additional feedback on how it should work, please add it there. https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/33627

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