18 Comments

  1. mikeschinkel

    Nice! So simple yet so useful.

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  2. Jeffrey

    Thank you for sharing this useful plugin! A time saver indeed.

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  3. Harry (@HarryVitebski)

    Great plugin! Thank you for sharing!

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  4. Keith Davis

    Looks interesting Jeff – might give it a run out but I’m getting less and less comments and more and more social shares.
    The Tavern is one of the few blogs that I comment on… must be the nice folks around here.

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  5. James

    How does it know you are the admin? What prevents the features from being accessible to users? Thanks

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  6. James B Chigozie

    Its a nice development but i still prefer having the moderation at the backend. And just like my namesake above asked, How does it know you are the admin?

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    • Alec Kinnear

      Hi James. You need to be logged in in order to see the moderation tools. Unless you are an Admin or an Editor you won’t see any of the moderation tools. Here’s a few points which might set you more at ease:

      1. The back end moderation tools continue to work as before when Thoughtful Comments is enabled.
      2. Thoughtful Comments is full compatible with Akismet and other comment plugins (subscription plugins for instance).
      3. You can enable and disable Thoughtful Comments freely with no damage or change to your comments database. We support the core WordPress commenting structure throughout the plugin.

      Still, if your site is a low comment zone, there’s no need for Thoughtful Comments. We created Thoughtful Comments for one of the most heavily commented political sites on the net. Moderation pre-Thoughtful Comments was a nightmare (sock puppets, banned trolls reregistering). Moderation post-Thoughtful Comments was much faster and more effective. Moreover via the front end moderation duties could be easily shared with non-technical editors.

      So many sites have been forced into using Disqus due to the weak moderation tools inside WordPress. Installing Disqus means losing control of your comment database, suffering slow page loads and taking a big SEO penalty (all those comments appear in javascript only unless you really know what you are doing). Thoughtful Comments lets even the most voluble sites enjoy native commenting with its attendant privacy, performance and SEO benefits.

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  7. Bowe Frankema

    @James I’m pretty sure it just does a simple if_current_user_can check. See http://codex.wordpress.org/Function_Reference/current_user_can

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  8. Jeffrey

    I tried to install it and then I noticed “Untested with your version of WordPress”, so I stopped. I hope the developer can do something about it.

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  9. Alec Kinnear

    Hi Jeff,

    Thanks for taking the time to review our Thoughtful Comments. That’s a great tip about changing “Delete” to “Trash”. Our settings options originally allowed the user to choose to send comments to trash or directly delete (now it’s Trash only: the less preferences the better): we should reflect that distinction in the front end language though.

    A feature which many administrators might appreciate is the automated URL shortening. The way this works is that if someone include a really long naked URL in a comment that link becomes “link to domain.com“. This is especially useful on sites where people like to talk but are not especially technical (think politics, celebrity, cooking, sports).

    Hi Jeffrey,

    Thanks for the reminder about the WordPress compatibility check. We are fully compatible with WordPress 4.1 and are updating the message now. With the number of updates which WordPress.org pushes (we’d prefer twice a year with database level updates only annually), most plugins are nominally out of date as Justin kindly pointed out (love your Hybrid framework btw, your new forum plugin looks exciting, for the moment we’re still using customised bbPress v1 for our support forums like WordPress.org).

    Hi Everyone,

    Comment caching is coming to Thoughtful Comments very soon, which will allow fast loading with low processor overhead of pages with extreme numbers of comments. We’ve been using front end caching to get the job done up until now which works fine for page load times. Bulk caching of older comments (we already handle Gravatar caching with our FV Gravatar Cache) will help reduce server load for very busy posts (think front page NY Times or Huffington Post). We have bulk comment caching working on some client sites and just need to drop the code into the core Thoughtful Comments.

    On the topic of caching, we’re also finishing a free mobile and retina image caching solution: FV Mobile Retina for WordPress. Without adding extra (slow) javascript, you’ll be able to serve a cached version of desktop with and without retina, as well cached versions of mobile both with and without retina images. The image processing will all be automated. If you’d like to be on the beta test list, drop me a line.

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    • Jeffrey

      Hi Alec, thank you for updating the compatibility message. I am sold now. The plugin looks good.

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    • Alec Kinnear

      Comment caching is here inside Thoughtful Comments, along with a new and improved interface, in line with WP Admin improvements. Cute little icons instead of just text links (Jeff has the old interface above).

      We welcome any feedback and any improvements. We’d also love to see Thoughtful Comments integrated into core to:

      1. improve moderation for busy sites.
      2. improve performance on sites with lots of comments.

      What we would really like to see is more robust built-in commenting in WordPress itself. Thoughtful Comments is very simple, clear code with years of field testing. Anyone who knows anyone in core with an interest in comments, please let us know how we could help move the process forward of integrating this functionality into WordPress core.

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  10. Rob Mehew

    This is how the Facebook comments moderation tool works too, which is really nice. Sometimes I read through comments and see one that needs some “attention” and try to remember it whilst i’m reading the rest of them but I tend to forget. A quick click of the delete and sorted.

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  11. Ronald

    What I would really wish is a configuration of or an option in the recent comments widget to choose between showing all sorts of comments including track/pingbacks, or only comments without track/pingbacks!

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