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  1. Ahmad Awais

    People behind Epoch/Postmatic are doing a fantastic job.
    I really like the way Postmatic works, it’s smart. E.g. if I am not reading the emails they self unsubscribe me after 5 or 6 of them, instead sending a flood of follow-up comments.

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    • Danny Brown

      +1 to this – the Flood control is awesome, and puts the “power” squarely in the reader’s hands as to how many emails they get. Something all too many other subscription solutions forget.

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  2. Jason Lemieux

    We couldn’t be prouder to have our code powering the conversation here on Tavern! I hope our approach is well received.

    All of our commenting tech is rapidly evolving, especially Epoch and Postmatic. If anyone has a wish list for commenting in WordPress this would be a good place to have at it.

    There is a lot of opportunity for making commenting fun again and 4.4 is going to get us that much closer. It’ll be a good year for engagement and conversation.

    And lastly – as Jeff pointed out, all of our stuff is GPL and increasingly a group effort. Epoch has an especially ambitious group of contributors but we can always use more help.

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  3. Chriss Benitez

    Nice post Jeff I think i will give it a try to some of them, btw out of the topic, what happened to Sarah? I haven´t seen post from her, anyway cheers

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  4. Tomas M.

    Testing comment editing feature, because as far as I remember, this feature was active at Tavern, but in recent months I didn’t see it in action.

    This time it worked!

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  5. S. Panda

    I’ve used WP-Markdown with Epoch on a couple of sites. It’s a beautiful combination.

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    • Jason Lemieux

      Thanks! We made sure both WP-Markdown as well as Simple Comment Editing look awesome with Epoch. I’ve been won over by Simple Comment Editing because it is lighter weight… but both are pretty nice.

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  6. Danny Brown

    Great run-down, and it shows just how much the Postmatic team are happy to either work with other plugins, or fork their own to meet a need.

    Now just need to see what their social add-on looks like…. :)

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  7. Rick

    I always missed a good plugin for comments rating. Finally, I found Rating Manager by Elementous. I like how it improves the comment rating form along with other plugins listed above.

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  8. Alec Kinnear

    This is a great curated (as opposed to catchall) list of comment improvement plugins, thanks for putting it together in one place Jeff. Sad that our front end moderation and native comment caching plugin Thoughtful Comments didn’t make the list this time but thanks for your past coverage.

    Like Jason, we work very hard to make sure our plugins are good team players so TC will work with most of the above (we haven’t tested all of them yet so I don’t want to say all).

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    • Jeff Chandler

      Unlike all of the plugins mentioned in this post, Thoughtful Comments is the only one that has the ability to ban people. I like this feature although I’d like something not so strict. Something more inbetween like a timeout feature where I can set a default limit to put people in timeout and when they leave a comment, the plugin tells them that because of a previous comment’s content, they’ve been put in time out.

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      • Terence Milbourn

        Is there any point in me trying to change your mind on your idea that, somehow, you improve the dialogue, if you stifle the thoughts and ideas poorly expressed, not thought through, or just plain wrong-headed?

        What needs to change is people’s reactions to them ~ mine included, sometimes ~ and you don’t get that improvement by banning their tolerance training material.

        It seems like all those who advocate moderation {sic} and censorship have at least one thing in common.
        They think, if they stop people writing what they don’t like to read, they will improve the conversation.

        But the truth is, all that does is chase away contributors, because people don’t spend their time contributing if they think you’re going to hit the delete key on them.

        Its so negative Jeff. Your focus has to be on how do we get better contributions from more authors, not how do we stop people writing stuff we don’t like.

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  9. Abhijith Rao

    Thanks for this post. I am unable to decide between Epoch and Postmatic, since those are the ones that I feel I should go with first out. Or is it ok to have both and they do not clash?

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  10. Matt

    Very good article! I plan to use at least 90% of these plugins to replace disqus and fb comments on a couple sites.

    As I scrolled through the comments here, I did find a problem in that the “report” function does not have a confirmation popup and just touching it out of curiosity to see if there were reporting options, I actually sent a report through. Wonder how difficult a confirmation modal would be for this?

    Other than that, they all look like solid value adds to the uber basic WP native comments system.

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    • Jason Lemieux

      Thanks, Matt. Jason from Postmatic here.

      Crowd Control does have a little confirmation checkmark icon that should show via ajax. If you aren’t hovering over the comment any longer you might not see it. We’ll be working on tighter integration between Epoch and Crowd Control in the coming weeks for a much improved interface.

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    • Alec Kinnear

      To be honest, one does better to pick and choose the functionality one really needs rather than trying to overfill one’s plate. The more of these plugins you add, the more cluttered and complex the commenting interface will become. One doesn’t need full Disqus functionality for a lively comments section. Different functionality will be important to each community though, so all of them have their place.

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      • Jeff Chandler

        I second this. I like the modular approach where specific features or functionality is simplified into one plugin instead of cramming everything into one plugin. However, I can easily see a Jetpack equivalent plugin for comments where features are modules. For example, Comment Rating is a module, Front end moderation is a module, Comment Editing is a module. Now that could be a great commenting plugin that allows people to only use what they need.

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    • Jeff Chandler

      I agree that there should be a more upfront model that tells the user the comment has been reported. Although I won’t share the threshold amount on the Tavern, it’s high enough to account for people clicking the button out of curiosity.

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  11. Andy M.

    Nice rundown, Jeff. I used to be a fan of Disqus et al. because of the “set it and forget it” capabilities. But externalizing all discussions to a 3rd party, in hindsight, isn’t the right way to go.

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  12. Lazhar Ichir

    You should add Engaging Convo, a great revolution for wordpress comments plugins. It brings to life inline threads and reactions, similar to Medium!

    I am the developer so full disclosure here, but try to check it out, it really is a game changer!

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