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  1. Carolina Nymark

    I fully agree and I only assume this is delayed by not having a decision about the FSE inclusion date.

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  2. Kristina

    why not include the Eksell theme in the wordpress? It is great:)

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  3. Riad Benguella

    Twenty Nineteen, which launched with WordPress 5.0 and its block editor, is the worst-rated (3.5 stars) default theme in history. Twenty Twenty was a decent block-ready outing.

    It’s funny because personally, as a blogger, I find 2019 to be far better than both 2020 and 2021. I think where it fails is that it’s not a generic theme that suits all use-cases which is (I guess) what most people rate.

    So for me the question, is whether the default themes can be specialized or not.

    The question about process is legitimate though.

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    • Justin Tadlock

      Twenty Nineteen was practically unreadable on Windows for nearly a year, so I didn’t have a lot of love for it early on. Once Baskerville Old Face was dropped as the primary font, I liked it a lot more. It’s held up pretty well as a blogging theme since then. But, I avoided blogs that used it like the plague for the longest time. :)

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  4. Ben

    I’ve been saying this for years and totally agree. Theme development should start at the start of the year, and it should be more open.

    Would love for it to be started soon so that it can get more thorough testing and development.

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  5. Andrew

    I suppose now would be too late to start development on making 2022 a “hybrid” theme?
    A theme that could show the community how to transition from classic to full-site-editing.

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  6. Tomas M.

    imho the default themes should be created in the way CSS Zengarden worked: you have a solid base (before it was _s, now we need something new) and then you show people, how this base can be made into something.

    You do not invent a wheel once again, but iterate, iterate, improve and build on previous core, so people could clearly see the process and how new features are being implemented into something that was working before.

    When the time comes for a new theme, you iterate again, and, because the core is the same, you show people what you did to improve the functionality of theme, etc. Previous themes were educational tools, now it is hard to learn from them, because you don’t see how it was done – every new theme comes from different developer, follows different thought patterns, etc.

    I have built Tiny Framework theme with this idea – I took the default theme and showed people how to extend it. It is still used by 7k sites, but now I cannot do this, because there is no good base theme…

    Just saying…

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  7. Jessica Lyschik

    As I was on the Twenty Twenty-One team, I wholeheartedly agree with this article. The theme development (at least for 5.6) was squished into the months between the 5.5 and 5.6 releases while being publicly announced in mid-September. Looking back, it’s definitely cool it happened in that short time but often I felt that having more time would have benefitted the theme even more.

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  8. Daniel

    Amazing, thanks for the extended take on this, Justin.

    It’s great to see typical time-frames for creating a theme mentioned here, underscoring just how much time and care can be required to take a theme to completion. While I’m enjoying the new possibilities the block editor has brought to the theme development process, I’m really look forward to the day when full site editing has matured enough to be in core.

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  9. Semih BULGUR

    Some Word Press themes looks great ıf you review just demo! But realty maybe different. When you update new theme on your website you maybe disapponted and sometime turn back your last theme is not easy. But l am happy with Twenty-One. Before change your theme reading commnets and blogs is advised. Thnak for your informative sharing.

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  10. Csaba

    Great article!

    What I love about default themes is that, although they support a broad range of languages, browsers and audiences, they are mostly so light, without fancy scripts and a giant amount of CSS. This is very true for Twenty Nineteen and Twenty Twenty-One. This makes them extendable (as a parent theme) without having to remove stuff you don’t need. They are (and should be) like WordPress itself. :-)

    I agree that with more time they could be even better, and groundbreaking perhaps. This year, we could be building the theme that becomes the standard for Full Site Editing. That needs time and testing. So when are we starting? :-)

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