1. Ryan Hellyer

    I’m not seeing a problem here. If people don’t like the humorous messages, then they should just change them. I think those little bits of humour add a little bit of character and shouldn’t be removed. In fact I’d be quite happy if more were added.


    • Jeff Chandler

      You’ll need to specify what you’re for and against. Would you rather an error message be sarcastic or try to crack a joke when you’re in the middle of trying to figure out what went wrong? At any rate, I think the overall majority are in agreement with you since based on my observations, I don’t see too many others raising the issue.


      • Ryan Hellyer

        I am for both sarcasm and cracking jokes so long as they are not shown to website visitors by default (within the default theme doesn’t count, since that is so trivial to change)..


        • Ted Clayton

          I oppose the PC-police who say we can’t have fun on our own time, on our own dime, with sarcasm, teasing, Polish-jokes, Nazi-references, and a new no-no each week. “Get lost; get a life”, is my reply to them.

          Sarcasm etc is just chimps picking through each other’s fur for succulent lice. It’s ‘core’ socialization so ancient, I don’t doubt it’s hard-coded.

          For you & me & our bottle of wine or bag of shake to uproariously amuse ourselves and any others who think they can stand the heat in the kitchen … good on us & all our partners in the supposed crime.

          But drag it into the workplace? Make it part of the fixed decor? We know better … we know how that movie turns out.

          This is one of the key aspects to a well-developed “professional” demeanor. Knowing when to leave the jug of vino and the wad of weed at home, in our personal lives.


  2. Samuel "Otto" Wood

    If this is the sort of thing we’re complaining about now, I guess the core is doing a lot more things right. :)

    Also, I will fight to keep “Howdy” in there. I will darned well fork if necessary.


    • Ryan Hellyer

      “Howdy” makes complete sense since American English is the default language.


    • Ted Clayton

      Though core does many things very well, the occasional stupidity is still stupid.

      It’s notoriously the squeaky wheel that draws the attention.

      But please tell us where to subscribe for updates on your fork project! :)


    • Caspar Hübinger

      @otto Second that. “Howdy” was what made an initial difference for me when I started using WordPress. So did the entire language/tone in the backend. It’s character, period.


  3. Ted Clayton

    Computers, programming and the nova-feudal communities that occupy it have grave social problems with elitism, hegemony and exclusivity. Easter eggs are yet-another trite symptom/expression of this pattern of structural liability.

    Why are we going Mobile? Because the lack of females in computerdom is devastating … and females suddenly accepted the computer-as-phone, in the tens of millions. Furthermore, and worse, around half the population really & frankly can’t be brought around to give a rat’s butt about computing, per se. Mobile appears to be the Cavalry charging over the hill to our rescue … even if the freshly-styled golden hair flying in the breeze should tell us clear-enough, it’s just that damn General Custer.

    By comparison, well north of 90% of all households & persons accepted & internalized the shared radio and then television commonality, throughout several generations of the broadcast communications era. Nothing remotely like that prevalence is coming to pass, with computers. Too many people just don’t care … computers just don’t offer something/anything, that the majority of the populace can get excited about. And females … omg; 90+% have an active aversion to computers & programming.

    Silicon Valley doyen Tim Draper, Elon Musk’s buddy and uber mover & shaker behind major computing trends … now sponsors a drive to split California into 6 states. In the weeks before Bitcoin became known to the masses [cough], CBS commissioned Draper to do an article for them on it. It came off the press, days after Bitcoin got in trouble … and in it, we see Mr. Draper making the same arguments against the United States itself (and their antiquated monopoly on money), which we saw him pose as the specific issues with California, that indicate/necessitate its fragmentation.

    Again, we’re talking symptoms here. Clues. Draper & his kid Adam (the real Bitcoin point-man of the family) are very bright & able people (like many in the leading ranks of computerdom), but they’re also way too full of themselves. Draper believes so matter of factly that he is qualified to redesign society in his Own Image, he does not even perceive his own delusion (which, yeah, is its definition…).

    Try not to be a total Draper, WordPress community. Humility is tough when you’re as magnificent as you are … when you run 18% of Cyberspace. A smart move is to start with the small things … things you might actually be able to handle … like the self-flattery of ‘Easter eggs’.


    • Ryan Hellyer

      omg. irrelevant.


      And females … omg; 90+% have an active aversion to computers & programming.

      +90% of males also have an aversion to computers and programming.


      • Ted Clayton

        Irrelevant, that WordCamp snapshots are near-unrelieved seas of male faces?

        That Automattic, and I don’t doubt Matt Mullenweg personally, struggle & compete seriously to recruit females, and strive to make the environment more-acceptable … wrack their brains … is irrelevant?

        I think it’s highly relevant. That if WordPress is going to have “personality”, it should not play a role in aggrandizing insider-perks … male domination; elitism.

        Seriously, Ryan: You wanna tell us males & females are on an equal footing here?


      • Peter Knight (@peterrknight)

        >> +90% of males also have an aversion to computers and programming.

        That’s an interesting point now that mobiles/tablets and walled garden type systems dominate the mainstream computing experience. I wonder if that will lead to less people getting interested in programming. At the very least the base line computer literacy is bound to go down. Having said that, maybe the rise of internet enabled appliances, gadgets and 3d printing can kindle a new kind of curiosity.


      • Ted Clayton

        Now more than a decade old, this gender-comparison survey of college students’ computing interests, will remain a benchmark. There will be others, more-recent.

        The annual UCLA survey polled over 400,000 students at 717 colleges and universities nationwide. Data from 269,413 of those students was statistically adjusted to represent the 1.1 million freshmen entering four-year higher-education institutions.

        Only 1.8 percent of women, compared to 9.3 percent of the men surveyed, said they planned to enter computer programming as a career — the largest gap in the survey’s history.

        “This is an area where the gender gap has done nothing but grow larger,” said Linda Sax, the survey’s director.

        [My favorite addendum to this disturbing topic, is that historic evidence supports that the innate ability of females ‘is there’, and that therefore, the fundamental problem today is ‘cultural’.

        Specifically, before digital electronics, “computers” where widespread & in heavy use … but a computer was then a human person. Most such professional computers – and the best, most desired & sought after – were females. When the first rounds of programmer-training began, female computers were selected. For ‘historic reasons’, this initially-promising move was derailed, and males became established as “appropriate” programmers, instead.]

        It’s a mistake to minimize the gender-imbalance in computing fields.


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