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  1. Mitch Canter

    I planned to come in here guns a-blazing, but seeing the screenshots it looks like the permalink itself will be “click to visit”. As long as there’s *something* there, that’s fine, but I do see people looking for the button and getting frustrated… even if it’s for a split second as they see the permalink underlined and colored.

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    • Jeff Chandler

      Yeah, in WordPress 4.3 you can click the slug area of the Permalink and it’s the same thing as pressing the edit button. In 4.4 you have to explicitly hit the edit button to edit the slug. Being linked performs the same function as the View Post button so it’s not needed.

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    • Helen Hou-Sandi

      I would just note (from my commit message):

      Previously there were two persistent “View Post” links on an edit screen: next to the permalink and in the toolbar. This would then become three links after a post was published or updated, as a link is also included in the admin notice. This is a lot of redundancy and visual noise for a flow that is not your primary action upon starting to edit a post. The “View Post” link next to the sample permalink was particularly bad because it is styled like a button, but unlike a button, does not keep you on the current screen.

      The “View Post” link in the notice you get after updating a post is hugely useful, because you’ve just made a change and want to check it out. The need to go to view a post in its current state from the edit screen otherwise is typically quite small, and the visual cues of the button were full-out wrong. The toolbar link is still there though, and becomes a pretty useful toggle between “View Post” and “Edit Post” in that location (I hadn’t thought about that until a tester pointed it out).

      It’s definitely not easy to decide to remove something that is built into many people’s habits, but I think when we look at this for new users and long-term as UIs change and need to adapt, it’s the right call to clean that area up and really focus on what it’s for: managing the permalink itself.

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      • dlouwe

        Great; I’m happy if only because it gets rid of a link that was styled like a button. Now users will know for sure that the link is a link, and isn’t going to perform some sort of action on the page – much better affordance.

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    • Keith Davis

      Just spent 5mins looking for the button and then I remembered this post.
      Clicking the permailnk it is then.

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  2. nekojira

    Scribu is no longer contributing to WordPress according to the man himself:

    http://scribu.net/blog/left-wordpress.html

    which is too bad really, could really use have him back and breathe -much needed – fresh air in the WordPress world

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  3. Dave Bell

    I like it. Eliminate redundancy. Always. Of course, I will have to get used to it but that is OK.

    Less confusing for new users is the way to go.

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  4. Brad Dalton

    The permalink is better because the shortlink is sometimes treated as spam when you add it to a card in YouTube.

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  5. tjpa

    Replacing the obvious with the obscure — is that really the way WP ought to be going? Any noob will know what “View Post” means. Explaining “Permalink” is going to be a long story that might have to be repeated several times. I bet most WP users do not know and will never care what a permalink is. Even fewer will have any desire to edit one. Useless clutter. Permalinks should be a feature for the hard core that can be enabled via Screen Options with a default setting of off.

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  6. Keith Davis

    The screenshots explain it all Jeff.
    Looks pretty simple to me… just hit the Permalink to view the post instead of the View Post button.

    We’ll soon get used to that.

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  7. Marcus Tibesar

    I really like the UI changes made in 4.3 especially after I started using them heavily. This new UI change makes sense too and gets rid of the clutter.

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  8. Rick Beckman

    It’d be nice if the domain (which is the same for every post on a site) is what gets truncated rather than the slug itself. As it is in the above screenshots, you have to click in to edit the slug to see if you even need to edit it.

    The slug shouldn’t be truncated or shortened; it is editable content and should be fully exposed so that users can decide whether they need to change it.

    $0.02

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  9. Danny Brown

    Just out of curiosity, how will this affect the “Preview post” button to the right of the editing screen (if at all)?

    Is the new feature going to open as a lightbox, or still a new tab with the post’s current state? Seems the only thing that’s happening here is the removal of one little button?

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  10. Adam

    How has it taken four years for this to get done? Surely it’s a ten minute fix.

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    • nekojira

      it wasn’t a high priority thing

      ironically, though, seems to prove one of Scribu points in his very own post (author of the original trac ticket, which then left WordPress) :

      I think one of the required ingredients for the success of the WordPress platform is its commitment to backwards compatibility. The downside is that WordPress is stuck with its crappy architecture forever and improvements take a lot more effort to land.

      source: http://scribu.net/blog/left-wordpress.html

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    • Helen Hou-Sandi

      It wasn’t a ten-minute fix, and it takes somebody actually working on it to get it done. I went back to it three years after my first patches because it occurred to me that I hadn’t revisited it, and there hadn’t been any movement in the meantime.

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  11. Brian

    Does anyone know the logic that was used to remove the “get shortlink” button? Kind of a handy feature for sharing posts with long URLs.

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  12. Connor Rickett

    About time! It’s nice to see WP coming back to deal with streamlining core functionality instead of adding slightly different ways of doing things we could already do anyway!

    Now, if they’ll only get on the phone with Google and start playing nice with Drive . . .

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  13. Samuel "Otto" Wood

    The shortlink button reappears if somebody is using a plugin that modifies the shortlink, which is fine. The default shortlink was a bit worthless, but the functionality itself isn’t.

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  14. Wayne Tolliver

    If the get shortlink button is removed then where do we get a shortlink? I have grown accustomed to using the shortlinks when Tweeting out posts.

    KEEP THE GET SHORTLINK BUTTON! WHY REMOVE IT TOO?

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  15. James Kalìwæ

    Happy to hear that undesirable setup is finally being fixed. It was such a minute issue in the first place, but one which many people dealt with multiple times a day. I’m not mad it took this long to improve this feature, better late than never. There have definitely been more important things for the developers to be worrying about.

    I absolutely love the way the new setup looks. It’s exactly what I’ve been thinking this whole time in terms of, “Why can’t the permalink’s slug just link to itself and be editable?” Exactly what I was hoping for (though I had long since given up hope they’d actually improve it, given how minor an issue it was).

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  16. Markus Pezold

    Hmmm… on the update message the link has also no explicit target. It seems that I use it already too long with the link context menu (“Open in new Tag”) and can’t remember it (subconscious) :)

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  17. Venkat

    As others have pointed out already, it would have been great if the slug is shown in full (if not full, at least 70 characters).

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  18. Robert Browder

    Where will I find the short link in the future?

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  19. Dave

    The changes sound good to me. I’d also like it, though, if visiting the page does not log me out of the admin panel.

    I also like the “15 minutes to edit” feature.

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  20. Csaba

    Great decision.

    And a bit funny too, I was just thinking today that there are many “View Post” links there… :-)

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  21. Michael

    Interesting upgradation by removing the view post and get shortlink buttons from the post editor. This is cause less confusion for the new users.

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  22. Laura

    I use “view post” quite often. This doesn’t seem a big change for the function to me. I just click a bit over to the left instead.

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  23. Jeffrey

    The simpler the interface is, the better. Thanks for the update.

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  24. Piet

    The whole permalink seems to be gone now…

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  25. Ali

    I need to enable Get shortlink button in wordpress 4.4

    Please guide me how to enable it back ?

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  26. John Dalton

    N0 objection to the clickable permalink, but removing the “get shortlink” removes a very useful function for those of us sharing links by e-mail wanting a link that doesn’t break onto two lines.

    Please, please ,please give us back out “get shortlink”.

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  27. Nelson

    Why would you do this? Just for the sake of change? It just makes everything more tedious.

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  28. Thorsten Frommen

    For those who want the button back, just add this as a MU plugin, or put it in your functions.php file:

    add_filter( 'get_shortlink', function( $shortlink ) {
    return $shortlink;
    } );

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  29. ioweyouacoke

    Using the not-so-well-known SHORTER LINK plugin solved the WP removal of the shortlink button issue for me. In my opinion WP should not have removed this feature — although I agree that the VIEW POST removal/change-up is a great minimizing feature.

    Bring back GET SHORTLINK for everyone, WP — there are LOTSof people who rely on it! :)

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  30. Andrew

    NO! NO, I beg you! I rely on that Shortlink tab to easily create FIXED links to other posts and pages. Why does it matter? If you’re doing any level of Search optimization, you’ll change that page title a dozen times or more. In a few months, as competitors eat away at your page rank, another dozen more. The Shortlink tab prolly save(d) me 2 hours per week.

    PLEASE PLEASE make it come back??

    Andrew

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  31. Wayne Powell

    I agree that the Shortlink button should not have been removed. It was an easy way for me to make quick sort links for email newsletter links (although I can tease it out by Post ID manually). Reminds me, I MUST move a client’s site to a new version of PHP as the posted function does not work on older PHP installations. (I know, I know. But sometimes with shared hosting you get what you get).

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  32. daren Bristow

    Email client doesnt allow for us to use long links, not really sure why such a simple feature would be removed like this

    Please make the ‘get shortlink’ button come back

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    • Jay

      Just install the SHORTER LINK plugin. It restores the ‘get shortlink’ button.

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      • Ronald Medlicott

        How do I install the SHORTER LINK plug in? Just reading the greyed out screen with my poor eyesight is a major challenge and finding obscure plug in options is something that I have never done. As I said in my previous posting, I write about issues, not program the UI.

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  33. Beee

    This doesn’t (seem to) work with custom post types.
    In my install all cpt’s lead to the edit page and not to the (front-end) url.

    Also my view item/post is missing from the admin menu…. No idea why/where it went…

    Could this be related to this change ?

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  34. Ronald Medlicott

    A writer about social justice issues that challenge the status quo, I am more concerned about ease of editing what i write and the ability to share my postings via Twitter using a short link URL than with the mechanics of the UI. Therefore, I profoundly dislike the new format which appears to have abolished the incredibly useful short link tab.

    The apparent absence, or the actual absence of the ability to create a short link that fits into Twitter or which can be remembered and written down on a Post-it note is more than a major frustration; it is effectively a barrier to freedom of speech. Has anyone at WordPress given any thought to just how useful a tool the short link tab is to persecuted minorities who are desperate to share word of their plight?

    In the real world, people really are persecuted and some of those people really are dying and their plight needs to shared as widely as possible. Whether it has been permanently removed or merely shifted to an obscure location, it needs to be placed “front and centre’.

    Finally, I am nearly 70 years old and whilst that makes me a ‘member’ of the Grey Power Brigade’ i.e. an old fogey, I do not like grey text on a computer screen. People in my age bracket have tired eyes and whatever the perceived benefits of grey text and boxes, for elderly people that stuff is very hard to read. Just because Microsoft programmers like grey text is no reason to follow suit. For me, the old 1980s white text on a blue screen introduced with the EGA screens (remeber them?) actually produces the most clear and easy to read text whilst black text on a white screen produces the next best level of readability for those with aged eyesight. So, if you want to really make WordPress better:

    (A) Put the short link URL tab back at the top of the screen and,
    (B) Make it easy for users to by offering a pallet of screen colour formats which includes KNOWN poor eyesight friendly alternatives.

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