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  1. Miroslav Glavić

    I had a plugin to disable automatic updates. It was actice, I guess it didn’t work. All my sites got updated.

    I don’t like that. I like to be there when the updates are done, What if the update breaks my theme or has a conflict with a plugin?

    If I do the updates manually, and there is a conflict, I can change the plugin/theme or try to fix things.

    By the way, why up to 72 hours? Wasn’t it up to 24 hours last update or two ago?

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  2. Jeffrey

    @Miroslav, I agree with you. I got three emails last night before I went to bed saying that my sites have been automatically updated, and I had the same thought as you: what if the update breaks my sites? I was not able to check any of my sites because it was too late, and I had to wait until now to check them. Fortunately, everything is fine.

    Then automatic update is too intrusive. It should wait for several days so the admin can have enough time to respond, if the admin does not do anything after certain days, then the update process kicks in.

    BTW, how do I disable the automatic update feature?

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    • Miroslav Glavić

      @Jeffrey – I had a plugin, apparently it did not work. I think there should be an option on the settings.

      Also, automatic upates can take money out of the community. Think about it. If you are doing the website of a local restaurant, whenever an update comes, the restaurant owner asks you to update the site…if it’s automatic, why pay you?

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      • Gabriel Reguly

        @Miroslav, @Jeffrey

        Add this to wp-config.php

        # Disables all core updates
        define( ‘WP_AUTO_UPDATE_CORE’, false );

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      • Jeff Chandler

        I find it a bit ridiculous that a consultant would charge to update a site when the update consists of nothing more than bug fixes. I think as a consultant, you should empower and educate your clients on how the update system works. Then, if they experience a problem after an update, that’s when they come find you and pay you to fix it, though those times should be rare.

        Also, Gabriel posted the code you add to your wp-config file which will disable auto updates all together.

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        • Miroslav Glavić

          Jeff,

          I am a very lucky human being that the “commercial” clients that I have tell me to just make their site(s) work, as long as they work, they don’t a flying F what I do.

          Now on the non-profit clients…they are causes I believe in and if their site(s) is broken, people can’t click that donate button.

          Most of the times I know of an update because of the WPTavern tweet mentioning the update.

          I had a site get broken because of a minor update, yes that site was the 0.0000001% chances. It was a site for a big charity fundraiser. The update came 24 hours before the fundraiser event.

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    • Samuel "Otto" Wood

      > and I had the same thought as you: what if the update breaks my sites?

      The update system uses partial updates now. It isn’t updating the whole site, just the affected files. Then, if the update is unable to complete for whatever reason, a rollback is performed, undoing any changes made. Then it emails you about the failure to update.

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  3. KarlonC

    Yea auto update is intrusive there should be an option to do it or not do it.

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  4. Brent

    @Miroslav

    The automatic updates only apply to minor updates, so you can still “get paid” by updating a major update. But regardless, if you’re a developer you can disable them but the user or client can update their site themselves, so they can still “not pay you” if they wanted.

    You should be getting paid in any case because you either tell your clients that if they update on their own and something breaks then they have to pay you to fix it, or to pay ahead with something like a maintenance package where you just go in and take care of their site for them.

    We have disabled all the automatic updates for our clients and fortunately have not had any update by accident; I would double-check your plugin. We’re using an MU plugin that adds a filter to accomplish it.

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  5. Keith Davis

    Had all my emails to tell me that sites have auto updated and it’s looking good.

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  6. Lucas Karpiuk

    We manage a little under 300 sites. About half of them received the auto update overnight and the other half we updated “manually” (took 5 minutes). No issues.

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  7. Greg (@Greg24x)

    For anyone still concerned about automatic updates listen to Andrew Nacin: https://wordpress.tv/2014/06/30/andrew-nacin-advanced-topics-in-wordpress-development/

    “With 3.9.1 in about 48 hours we did 2,7 million updates and only 99 of them had a problem and none of them broke.”

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  8. Alin Grigore

    Just updated to the latest version without any errors. Everything seems to run smoother now :). Does anyone know how to get the beautiful underline with the orange highlight when pointing the mouse over underlined text? Thanks in advance for your answers

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  9. Jeffrey

    I am happy that the update is working fine, but the point is “Don’t touch my site without my consent”.

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  10. Summer

    Define “broke” :)

    Updating to 4.0 would definitely have destroyed post-editing functionality for one of my then-client’s site, since they were at the time using the old Google Maps (which at the time created a conflict with the visual editor and adding images), and it took a long time for that plugin to be updated to deal with the conflict. That delay would have been unsatisfactory situation for that client, since they did a lot of content updates, and did them themselves with less than tech savvy folks.

    So while it’s true that particular conflict only affected a small number of sites, plus the fact that a list of conflicting plugins is maintained every time a new WP release comes out seems to suggest that things will break, and if they break during an auto update in the middle of the night with no one attending the site or monitoring the results, Bad Things Might Happen ™.

    Thus, no automatic updates for any sites for clients I do maintenance for, and not even on my own sites (except on testing platform sites).

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    • Lucas Karpiuk (@karpstrucking)

      Summer, a site wouldn’t be updated to 4.0 using the auto-update mechanism by default – it’s only used for patch updates (ie. 3.9.1, 4.0.1, 4.1.1) which only include fixes and security patches, not feature enhancements or other significant changes.

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  11. Summer

    But in the past, similar issues have cropped up with patch level updates… I just used that as an example, since it was the most recent one I could recall.

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  12. adhocbands

    I had this automatic update and now any changes I save to widgets don’t actually update the site at all. I need help with this if there is any way to get help. So far, no replies from WP support and naturally it is our busiest time of year.

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    • Lucas Karpiuk

      This is usually an indication of JavaScript error, which is usually a plugin conflict or missing files. Try reinstalling core and disabling all plugins temporarily.

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  13. Adam

    Is there any plan for the next or future release to include built in functionality to remove Metadata author and dates? Like this plugin.

    https://wordpress.org/plugins/wp-author-date-and-meta-remover/

    Many small biz clients do not blog but still want to have articles. They don’t require author or dates though. It is annoying to have to manually remove this from themes.

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    • Lucas Karpiuk

      Displaying the post author/date/etc is a function of the active theme. While it may be annoying to remove this manually from the theme, that is the recommended method – using the plugin you’ve linked to unnecessarily increases the number of stylesheets being loaded in order to hide the information from view – it’s still there in the source code.

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      • Adam

        Good point. That’s why it would be a nice option in the next WP release.

        I’m not the only one that would like to see this Lucas. I’m sure a lot of WP designers and developers would like to see this built in as well. This really gives small-medium sized business owners the sense that WP is still a “blogging platform” and not a full fledged CMS… including me.

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