1. Ben

    A very nice and meaningful memorial.


  2. Tom Barrett (@TCBarrett)

    Awesome idea. Well done for organising this.


  3. Suzette Franck

    This is wonderful, what a great idea!


  4. Miroslav Glavic

    you know, you could ALSO name the next WP version after her as well as the scholarship.


  5. Lorelle VanFossen

    Oh, I adored Kim. this is the first I’m hearing about it and I’m heartbroken, but she would be so pleased to know that others are benefiting from the WordPress love and compassion on her behalf, and a bit embarrassed.

    I’m going to cry for a bit and then act. Thanks.


  6. Isaac

    Pretty awesome Idea, well done guys


  7. Dev

    Limiting this award only to women is discriminatory.

    I know of no impediments (past or present) to women getting involved in the WordPress community and as such I don’t see a need for any kind of special incentive.

    Hmmm. If this award was limited only to males… or only to whites… or perhaps only to white males, I wonder what kind of issues might be raised by those who would disagree with such a discriminatory policy?

    That was a trick question. I know the answer.


    • James Geiger (@SeamlessThemes)



      • Dev

        I think is it a legitimate issue for discussion. Sorry you disagree but that is your right and privilege and I respect that.

        When someone calls me a juvenile name I remind myself that at age 67 and an early ARPANET user/programmer, maybe I’m the only adult in the room.


        • buzztone

          RE: maybe I’m the only adult in the room. Definitely not – your comment indicates a lack of understanding of the issue IMHO and some disrepect for what is a moving memorial for many people involved with WordPress.


          • Dev


            Let’s review.

            Mr. Geiger called me a troll.

            Mr/Ms. buzztone is calling me “clueless” and disrespectful.

            Being of a certain age (probably greater than their combined ages by a fair margin) and having seen real discrimination (admission quotas, public accommodations, voting rights, etc.) up close and personal, I’d like to know why an award that can ONLY be won by ONE sex, or ONE racial group, or ONE religion, or ONE ethnicity is not discriminatory.

            Talk to me.

            If this is akin to Affirmative Action or gender equality for WordPress, please make the case why it is necessary.

            Would this award be less “moving” if it were open to all members of the WP community?

            I’m open to reason, but no one has presented anything other than personal attacks.

            Instead of of making a case by stating something similar to “I’m right, you’re an idiot,” as exemplified above, perhaps someone will refute my position in a logical, mature and adult manner.


  8. Jay Syder

    Reply to Dev. (maybe not the best but my opinion)

    They have chosen it for women due to the low amount of women in the wordpress community trying to encourage to join as a career. I would just put it down to a simple supply and there is enough demand for this foundation to fund it. I mean if this was about products and one wasn’t selling as well as another it would be equivalent of putting one on special.

    But we can look at things differently and so yourself and others may take offense to this well myself and others don’t. That is how I see it, assuming they are being open with their reasons which if they are not that is another discussion.


    • Dev

      I understand the ‘goals’ of attracting more PEOPLE into the WP community via an award.

      But I have some questions about an award attainable only to women.

      Are women ‘discouraged’ from being part of the WP community (however one might define it?)

      Is there active hazing that takes place?

      Are there strict quotas on the number of women who can be admitted?

      Are there specific tests that must be passed to gain entry?

      If woman are admitted, are they relegated to the “back of the bus?” (Most won’t understand the reference but I remember it well. It is interesting that we are having this discussion on MLK day.)

      If the above is true, will this award solve all of that?

      Personally, I think that an award only open to women is actually insulting to women. But that’s just me.

      Those who believe in a meritocracy where ‘rewards’ are earned on a level playing field of competition, as opposed to ‘given’ because of race, gender, religion, or privilege… we object to a “free ride” attainable only to one demographic entity.

      And what I also don’t understand is the perception that there is a shortage of women in the so-called ‘community.’ I know many women who either own or work in WordPress-only web design shops or who create themes and plugins, or who do social media consulting around the WP platform. Where are the metrics that suggest (much less prove) that there is a ‘shortage’ of women?

      One thing we have learned from the (USA) Affirmative Action laws is that discrimination to combat discrimination is logically flawed and has engendered more discord than it has solved.

      Are there any Eskimos in the WordPress community? If not, should we have an award only attainable by Eskimos?

      @Syder, I know I’m not going to change your mind, nor that of anyone else here, so I’ll get off of my soapbox and ‘move on.’ But I do want to commend you on presenting your views in a calm, rational, non-aggressive manner… you know… like an adult. I, and I’m sure others here appreciate that… and that we can agree to disagree without bitterness and rancor.


      • Justin Tadlock

        I didn’t really want to get too much into this discussion, but I did want to answer one of your questions.

        Are women ‘discouraged’ from being part of the WP community (however one might define it?)

        Yes, they are sometimes discouraged. Not always. It does happen though.

        Any male-dominated field is going to be somewhat tough for women to get into simply because there’s a bunch of men. While I can’t speak from personal experience, I imagine it is intimidating for some women to get involved at all, regardless of how inviting or uninviting such a community is. I don’t think anyone really has any doubts as to whether WordPress’ has more men involved than women. It’s largely the same across all tech fields. Of course, there’s nothing wrong with that. A large part of it is that men are probably more likely to enter these fields because these are the sort of fields that interest men more than they do women. I’m sure there are other things at play as well, but that’s a discussion for another day. Whatever it is, it doesn’t change the fact that the WordPress software brings in more men, which in and of itself can be discouraging.

        There are also specific instances (some people have written blog posts on these) where women have been made to feel uncomfortable. Some of these instances are just “guys being guys”. However, they have no place in a professional environment where they might make women feel uncomfortable or unwelcome.

        With all that said, none of it matters in this specific case. Ultimately, what matters is honoring Kim. One of the things that *Kim* wanted to see was more women actively involved in the WordPress community.


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