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  1. Nick

    All this time, I was using the WooCommerce built in Paypal gateway. This article made me think twice how I should utilize Paypal with Woo.

    Very nice article, thanks!

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  2. Brent

    Great to hear Andrew Angell is able to sustain his work from a free model. That is the best model for everyone.

    I am a little surprised by some of his negative remarks towards other PayPal integrations though. There’s no doubt some of the official PayPal integrations with WooCommerce could use more work (as could many of the free ones – PayPal APIs are hard work). But some of the official extensions are also first class.

    Most notably, the PayPal Express Checkout extension by SkyVerge is excellent. So excellent, Andrew himself felt some of it was good enough to copy into his own plugin (as discussed here: https://github.com/angelleye/paypal-woocommerce/issues/35).

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    • Andrew Angell

      I don’t think any of the quotes or comments were meant to demean the premium plugins. Many are indeed great.

      The simple fact is that when I sat down to use them 2+ years ago now, there were lots of small issues with the PayPal plugins. Some bugs, and lots of things that simply could have been included but weren’t. I haven’t looked at their latest version. They could very well have added some of that, and I’m sure they’ve improved it overall in various ways.

      We did indeed start with their plugin. As the article mentions I was originally going to simply extend their stuff and build off of it. It simply turned into stripping out all of the PayPal integration, replacing it with our PayPal class libraries, and then adding many new features from there.

      I’m pretty sure you will find our plugin is vastly different from theirs at this point, but yes, of course we used whatever we could when we got started. That’s one of the beautiful things about open source. :)

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      • Suleiman Khan

        So much publicity for someone who sat down one day to copy some body elses plugin, enjoy the fame while it lasts, the payback is near.

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        • Andrew Angell

          Compare them and you will see they are much different.

          PayPal for WooCommerce is available on GitHub, so feel free to copy it and use it however you want. I wouldn’t call it payback. I would call it contribution. ;)

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        • Brent

          No need for that Suleiman. Being able to build on the work of others is one of the great things about open source licenses and communities (I also built on top of SkyVerge’s PayPal Express Checkout code recently, which is why I know it’s first class).

          My comment was more to point out that negative statements like “while the Woo community builds a great shopping cart, they left much to be desired in the specific area of PayPal payment integration” are contradicted by using code from at least one PayPal integration from a member of the Woo community.

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  3. Jeffrey

    I agree it is a big publicity for one free WP plugin, but I think It is a way too strong accusation of saying it is a copycat.

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  4. Russell Kaye

    @Mr Khan: Copycat? It’s Open Source. Get with the program…

    On another note. I want to strangle woocommerce sometimes. Shouldn’t there be a big warning that paypal sandbox requires SSL as of January 19th? Wasted an entire night and morning debugging it.

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    • Andrew Angell

      Are you using the PayPal Standard that comes with Woo, a plugin, or what exactly? I’ve been running transactions in the sandbox without SSL without any issue, but that’s with API calls.

      I think what you may be referring to is the “ssl handshake failure”..?? That’s a little bit misleading. It mentions has SSLv3 is no longer supported, and you have to use TLS now. It’s all because of the POODLE vulnerability.

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      • Russell Kaye

        I was running the paypal standard that comes with woo – I think they just posted this warning

        So, yes was running the built in paypal (until I read this mention of yours.)

        I’m new to woo (there’s the t-shirt) – moving over from magento – I’m really a photographer that does some e-commerce development work when my photo work is slow – so really appreciate these back and forths with the people that make things work for us.

        thank you again – R

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  5. Gene

    Thank you Sarah for sharing this great find!

    And a huge THANK YOU to Andrew for making this available on the WP repo!

    Doesn’t look like a copycat from what I can tell, will be testing this out on some new builds.

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  6. Justin Tadlock

    Great work, Andrew!

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  7. Russell Kaye

    yes – thank you to Sarah!

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  8. Alex Mansfield

    Have you looked into the origin or WooCommerce?

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    • Russell Kaye

      enlighten us?

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      • Andrew Angell

        The quick story is that they forked the Jigoshop system and turned it into WooCommerce. So they started as a “copy cat” the same way I’m being accused here.

        It’s just the same old story. People say Microsoft copies Apple, but wait, Apple copied Xerox.

        Sports teams try to emulate what the previous championship teams did.

        Businesses see what’s working and fine-tune it to work for them, too.

        Some are able to make it work for them and their customers, and others are not.

        Just my two cents. :)

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