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  1. Ben D

    Oh Goodie! Another Automattic money grab.

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    • Ron

      Ummmm…..you do realize that Automatic is a FOR PROFIT company right?

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      • Miroslav Glavic

        That makes part of it’s profits from partial free labour. Thus sort of breaking labour/employment laws in many countries.

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        • Ron

          That’s ridiculous!

          There’s a difference between “free” slave labor and “free” volunteer labor. Nobody is forced. Your scenario doesn’t apply to the latter in any way.

          You’re clearly mixing the two up.

          In your world the Red Cross would be in deep shit since they have paid employees and volunteers WORLDWIDE.

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  2. Derek

    Very Interesting. I would not expect them to tap into this market but it’s a good business move.

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  3. Terence

    Whether the above comments hold water or not, I couldn’t say, but I can’t help but wonder just how much sense .blog makes in light of Automattic’s agenda of pushing WordPress as a CMS, and not just a blog engine.

    By the time they’ve realised that grabbing the fast/easy money was a bad idea it will take years to undo, if ever.

    And besides, do they really want to become synonymous with a failing Google blogging platform in the public’s mind?

    I find this really a really strange.

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    • KTS915

      Terence, where do you see Automattic pushing WordPress as a CMS? I see some developers and users doing so, certainly, but not Automattic.

      Matt’s stated goal is to expand WP’s user base dramatically. Every move he’s made emphasizes that he sees this happening essentially through the use of WP as a “blogging platform plus.” This move by Automattic seems quite consistent with that strategy.

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      • Terence

        Actually, some people would have you believe WordPress dominates the CMS market to far greater extent than Matt claims ~

        https://www.liquidweb.com/anchor/market-mastery-wordpress-hosting-dominates/

        The WordPress platform dominates their vertical by hosting 58.7 percent of all CMS-based websites.

        Not only that, but Matt says …

        https://ma.tt/2015/11/seventy-five-to-go/

        The big opportunity is still the 57% of websites that don’t use any identifiable CMS yet, and that’s where I think there is still a ton of growth for us (and I’m also rooting for all the other open source CMSes).

        http://ma.tt/category/wordpress/

        As the most widely used CMS in the world, many people use and deploy the open source version of WordPress in a sub-optimal and insecure way, but the same could be said of Linux, Apache, MySQL, Node, Rails, Java, or any widely-used software.

        So, I don’t think it just other developers making that claim.

        Which is why I think this move is curious, to say the least.

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        • mark k.

          free or reduced price .blog domain for wordpress.com hosting actually makes sense as it will make the platform more “sticky”.

          Having jetpack being able to control everything about your .blog site is also an advantage for pushing jetpack.

          There are positives in controlling as much of the vertical as you can and the domain suffix itself just need to be plausible, nothing more.

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        • KTS915

          Sorry, Terence, but the fact that Matt refers to WordPress as a CMS doesn’t mean what you think it does. He’s just using a phrase that resonates with others — and it’s handier than “software for creating blogs and websites.”

          What’s telling in those quotes is that he doesn’t talk about developing features that promote WP as a CMS. And that’s because that’s not where his interest lies. It never has.

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          • Terence Milbourn

            Wait a minute. He describes WordPress incorrectly to make it easier to understand?

            I don’t know Matt ~ other than by reputation and his public persona ~ but neither of those suggest to me he’d use that kind of logic.

            From what I understand of the guy he would be far more likely to meet the issue head on and get people to understand his way off looking at things.
            Not take the easy way out and use some handy terms to mislead them.

            No, I don’t buy it.

            In fact, as I remember he even started not calling it either a CMS or a blog, but “a WordPress”, to try and make it into a noun.

            That’s surely not the mark of someone who takes the easy way out if its misleading.

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      • KTS915

        He describes WordPress incorrectly to make it easier to understand?

        LOL. By your logic, calling what is officially known as association football “soccer” to an American would be describing it incorrectly! And calling it “football” to a European would also be misleading!

        No: different audiences, different labels. Neither is misleading.

        Matt simply knows his audience.

        And he needs to know his audience. He has shareholders to satisfy.

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        • Simon

          There is a difference between ‘WordPress’ and ‘wordpress.com’ which makes all the difference here. Make no bones about it, Automaticc bought the rights to .blog (primarily) to sell to their wordpress.com users. Not a single part of the conversation prior to the purchase involved the term ‘CMS’, I’m sure.

          Is WordPress becoming more blog-centric? No. Is it becoming more web/site/app-centric? No. Is there a need for two fellas to try to out smartass each other over the semantics of it? Always.

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        • Ron

          @Simon

          Seriously? You speak like someone who has no idea how the domain business works.

          I guarantee you Automatic doesn’t care who or for what purpose .blog domains are registered.

          Being able to “exclusively manage” ANY new TLD is essentially a license to print money. It will make their $19M investment look like spare change.

          It just blows my mind that Google let them get it.

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        • Simon

          @Ron Yes, seriously, although I think you’ve mis-interpreted “primarily”? I’m not for a second saying that they’re going to turn people away if they’re not on wordpress.com – or claiming that I (want to) know the domain business inside out. I’m saying that they’ll likely use wordpress.com as their primary ‘shop front’ to sell the domains – to people setting up a new WP blog. That makes sense and should go without saying. I said that in the context of the ‘Blog’ vs. ‘CMS’ thread above, which I was replying to. This is a wildly different conversation than the one which you started (and ended).

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  4. Laura Brown

    My first thought is who would want a .blog domain? I run niche, hobby and personal sites and blogs. The .blog domain doesn’t interest me at all. I don’t think business or commercial sites will be interested. The idea may be good but .blog may not be the best choice.

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    • Adam

      I believe WP will be very successful running the .BLOG extension Laura. I do agree with you though when I build sites I want them to not necessarily be though of as a blog.

      I guess this shows were WordPress main market and userbase still is.

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      • gilmourmiles

        I think you should probably rephrase that as “I guess this shows were WordPress.com main market and userbase still is.”

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      • Laura Brown

        They do the surveys and must have some idea about how the software is used. I’ve been frustrated with limits to WP lately. But, many people haven’t known anything but WordPress since they started online. So, it must seem safe to them. I don’t know if you have written about the flat file CMS versus MySQL database CMS. I didn’t realize it was an upcoming thing until just this week. I used to run a site with Thingamablog (years ago). It was database free – which was what I liked about it. I don’t know if it’s better than a database site but… it would be like going back to building my own sites again. I’d be able to manage images so much easier than the Media Library with WP. I’d never have cat ID#17884 again either. I wouldn’t need to risk a database to set the # back to 1. Anyway, if you haven’t already written something about the flat file thing I hope you will. Even the most die hard WordPress fan should know what’s out there and have perspective.

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        • Laura Brown

          Didn’t find anything posted here. Maybe it’s not marketally correct (there is probably a very clever phrase for that, somewhere) for a WP resource site.

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        • Ron

          I’ve been frustrated with limits to WP lately.

          Aren’t you the one that always talks about how you never use plugins?

          What do you expect?

          That’s what plugins are for. WP will never be all things to all people. Plugins do a great job of making it more of what you need it to be.

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  5. Terence

    There you go @KTS915 … that’s the problem right there!

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  6. Chris Pearson

    Can the kind folks at Automattic help me get my hands on the domain http://thesis.blog, lets bury the hatchet and end this amicably.

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  7. Jules

    I thought the .blog would be quite nice to have and would point it to my blog. I thought I’d get the same name as my usual domain name which costs at most £12 year. just with the .blog on the end. It would be similar to my .co.uk, .online and .website extensions, keeping my branding happy. Thought I’d register ready for when the time came and bobs your uncle.

    I was absolutely amazed this morning to find out it will cost me £187.50 to register the .blog extension. Plus a £22.50 registration fee and a £165 application fee. OMG! Whatever is going on here? I’m only a small biz. These prices are ludicrous and that’s only for one year!

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  8. kandra

    My God.. 30 US Dolar for a domain that is really expensive. I wonder what extra benefit does a blogger had if they use wordpress.com as the chosen one.

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