1. Leonardo Losoviz

    This is Tom’s talk from WordCamp Europe: https://youtu.be/Y3y74POsDvc?t=10972

    What Tom is exploring is pretty interesting indeed. However, I do really really really hope that porting Gutenberg to the front-end is doable from a performance point of view, since now it has to download a huge amount of JavaScript, just for adding comments! Last time I checked (version 6.0), the Gutenberg editor loads 4.2 mb of JS, and Tom’s site is loading 2.2 mb (I don’t know how much from that is due to Gutenberg, but I guess most of it, since his site is otherwise so clean).

    Adding Gutenberg to the front-end can certainly make sense for sites which are already very heavy on JS and full of dynamic functionalities. But adding so much load for any typical WordPress site, i.e. for simple blogs, can easily become a disservice to the site: more functionality at the cost of speed (at least for first-time users) will, most likely, not be worth it.

    Maybe Gutenberg could ship an extremely bare version of it (eg: no “+” signs, no de-registering blocks from the front-end, i.e. no need to load JS to remove JS, etc), and weigh no more than 300-500 kb? Then I would consider adding it to a simple site, but not before then.


    • Ciprian Popescu

      500kb is way too much for JavaScript in a world where we already have too much JavaScript. The comment form should be a simple HTML form, it’s just comments in the end.

      If one needs more functionality, then they can add a front-end posting feature.


  2. Kurt Schlatzer

    Though a noble experiment, I have to question a) the performance impact, and b) the potential security issues. I also question the notion that everything is a nail and Gutenberg is the hammer.


  3. Justin Tadlock

    Cool experiment. I see it as something fun but not anything I’d ever consider for inclusion on any site due to performance, much less in core. It’s good that devs are experimenting with the block editor outside of post content though. It’ll help provide ideas for the future.


  4. Scott Hartley

    Cool experiment and interesting concept as Gutenberg will need to be brought to the frontend eventually. However, as a comment plugin, it’s just too much of a performance hit to ever want to consider it. JavaScript already plagues WordPress sites as being overabundant and constantly eats a hole through mobile performance budgets.


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