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  1. cnotv

    This talk smells of React choice…

    However the Gutenberg and RestAPI choices have been more a must than anything else, compared to any existing CMS UI.
    I wonder how much hackable is going to be the first one, so maybe there can be new possibilities rather than just exclude plugins.

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  2. Mark Root-Wiley

    A quote not mentioned in this article that really worries me:

    The second thing is we need to throw out our rule book and just talk about when doing that is appropriate. We, for often very good reasons, do things like say WordPress is WCAG compliant and no new code should come in that is not. That’s a tradeoff, and that’s a tradeoff that we’ve enshrined. We should readdress it if we think that that tradeoff, whether for a particular feature, a particular user experience, or a particular benefit, is worth it.

    (The transcript is misspelled “WCAT”.) The suggestion that this should be ignored is really scary. I’d really like to hear Matt provide some examples of WCAG standards he things could be ignored without locking real people out from new features.

    A lot of people fought really hard to get WCAG 2.0 Level AA adopted as a standard, and I think following those guidelines is quite reasonable.

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    • Tim Kaye

      Good point, Mark.

      Interestingly, Winn-Dixie lost a case just two weeks ago because of the lack of accessibility of its website. While Matt was (in principle, at least) talking about wordpress.org, I doubt his shareholders would like him jeopardizing the bottom line of wordpress.com because of his “readdress[ing] … that tradeoff”.

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  3. Chuck

    No Steve Jobs and Apple would have died just like Commodore.
    No Jeff Bezos and we’d all have to go to the mall to shop.
    No Elon Musk and our rockets would all be disposable.

    No visionary and you have no vision. Mid-level micro-managers are a bad thing. Having a visionary and a micro-manager at the top of the enterprise is critical, if you want to be a special company.

    Even with the small team I run, nothing leaves the shop until I personally inspect it. Sorry but that’s the way it is.

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    • ripul

      100% agree with your point.

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    • Kadai Crosshansen

      Well, sounds like that you take the quality control very seriously. And that is good. On the long road, that generates a lot of trust.

      It takes someone with the vision, and the spirit to actually make sure that the vision is delivered as expected. Managers are just that, people that helps the vision reach “safe port” more quickly.

      I wonder for how long this consensus (democracy?) model will work.

      It is not bad, but if you need dramatic changes, t is not going to happen with that.

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  4. Amanda Rush

    I’d like to hear specifics on which parts of WCAG Matt believes can or should be thrown out, with principle, guideline and success criteria citations. If we’re throwing out all of WCAG, I’d like to hear how you ensure that you’re not excluding an entire segment of the world’s population that is five times the population of PHP 5.2 users, who are still being included. Finally, I’d like to learn how someone who was claiming that assistive technology fixes websites so accessibility isn’t a big deal a mere year ago comes to the conclusion that you can just throw out WCAG, like it’s backwards compatibility or something.

    I really want to believe that Matt does not intend to exclude people with disabilities, and that he believes that we should be able to participate in and benefit from the democratization of publishing just like anybody else because we’re people. But all I have to go on are non-commital statements at best, and I have to do a lot of mental gymnastics to turn those non-commital statements into anything other than “I’m not necessarily opposed to your having a seat at the table, but you’ll need to build your own chare and then negotiate with the other people at the table for a spot.” I want to believe that the statements Mat has made regarding accessibility are based on a complete lack of information, and that the only reason he’s suggesting that WCAG can be thrown out is because he has no knowledge of WCAG and just doesn’t realize what that statement implies. But that requires me to go out on an incredibly shaky limb.

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