1. mark k.

    And people still ask why anybody wants to use a DRM…..

    It seems to me that even if everything which was claimed has happened that way, it is still a very gray area. Was it specified in the contract that incsub are not allowed to use the scripts, and if not will they be able to prove that the videos weren’t done while they still had license to use them. In addition, there are not many ways in which you can make a tutorial about creating a new post, so claiming a copy right on every video which describes it is a little bit far fetched IMO.


  2. mark k.

    hmmm, I see that it is a plugin as well as a tutorial.


  3. Paul Hastings

    Wow, if any of that is true then Incsub is totally lame. :P


  4. noel

    I am not big fans of WPMU/Inscub either. I bought Sociable Pro plugin about a year ago from them with the intent of geting paid support from the author. The author was letting them proces the transactions but he wasn’t responding to anyone on their support forum for it.

    I asked WPMU several times for help and they said basically tough luck and didn’t want to offer me a refund even though they took my money. After countless emails they didn’t respond to me. I finally got PayPal to refund my money. Horrible customer service.


  5. Jeffro

    I’ve added a link to the bottom of the post that points to a comment left by James where he tells his side of the story.


  6. Siobhan McKeown

    This whole thing is very sad. And I feel like I should clear things up a bit, since I know quite a bit from the inside.

    Incsub purchased the rights to use their videos originally. The videos didn’t quite meet our needs so we decided not to renew the agreement and to make our own. No infringement was made at all in creating the new and improved videos. In fact, one of the WPMU DEV team spent a lot of time shooting videos and writing scripts.

    There really isn’t anything else to the story here. It’s a shame it’s got this far.


  7. Deryk Wenaus

    There is something wrong with the whole WPMU/incsub situation. they are very heavy on marketing, and low on quality. I was a member for a while and used a few plugins, but when I got deeper into the plugin code it was a disaster: the code was not poetry to put it lightly. Incsub seems to be very strong on marketing and weak on ethics. We can learn from them on their marketing skills, which are great, and we can also learn from them on their lack of ethic, and aim for higher standards.


  8. Dave Doolin

    @Deryk, nicely said. In some real sense, marketing turns everything into shades of grey, but it’s worth the effort to stay far, far into the lighter shades of those greys.


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