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  1. Frank Corso

    I was just looking for a donation system for a site that I am working on. I’ll try out Give and see how it goes. Looks promising.

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  2. Chad

    Wow.. I am also working on a Non-Profit (501c) site and was about to start hacking Contact form 7 to give donation through Paypal. Cant wait to try this out. When will it be out of Beta?

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  3. Sami Keijonen

    Seems like a great plugin. Do you have tutorial how to create Payment Gateway for it?

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    • Devin Walker

      Hey Sami – Not yet. But soon. If you’re looking to create a payment gateway Add-on we can provide you with all our current gateways to fork from. You’ll be able to see how each works specific to each gateway and the plugin core. Feel free to reach out to us @wordimpress or @givewp.

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  4. Zyniker

    The “freemium” model alone should be warning enough to avoid this. Anyway, there are already a number of excellent options for accepting donations on WordPress sites (e.g., Gravity Forms + Stripe).

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    • Matt Cromwell

      What is problematic about the freemium model (which actually has several iterations and isn’t just one thing really)? Should users avoid EDD and WooCommerce as well? What monetization model would you NOT avoid?

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      • Zyniker

        My comment was (perhaps too) elliptical: A freemium model wherein the development firm releases an intentionally crippled version of a product (e.g., shipping with only one gateway [and one which many organizations avoid for various reasons]) and then sells ‘premium’ addons to enable functionality that should have been part of the core is extremely objectionable. From what I’ve seen of EDD, I would have some of the same objections to their model (e.g., charging for the Stripe gateway which is an order of magnitude easier to implement and at least that much friendlier than PayPal), though I have no active projects using the plugin so my familiarity with it is limited. As for WooCommerce, it’s a somewhat different situation as they are maintaining a market wherein third-party developers can sell addons, which makes it less directly comparable to Give and EDD.

        Naturally, developers have to find a revenue model that will keep their businesses afloat, but there is something decidedly unsavoury about building a functional product and then removing bits of it to sell back to users at a premium. It would be like selling a car, and then telling the buyer to drive with a pair of pliers; of course, if the buyer would prefer, you would be willing to sell a shiny, new steering wheel (the only fully compatible model, of course) for the low, low price of $15,000. Freemium models which depend on a crippled core cross this (perhaps not so) fine line.

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        • Matt Cromwell

          No. Give is not crippled (neither is EDD). The free Give plugin is fully capable of accepting donations both with PayPal Standard and offline donations. But the most important part which distinguishes Give from other solutions is the reporting both per form and per donor, and exporting of reports by date range, both as CSV or PDF. All of the various form field modes are also available, and we have several new free features planned like Donor profiles in the backend, anonymous donations, and more. All of those features, plus a shortcode generator and widget and templating and more are all in the Core free Give plugin. You should download it to see how fully-featured it is.

          The essence of a freemium plugin is of course that it must be fully functional — as Give and EDD both are. But it is also a balancing act to make sure the Core plugin is as lean and focused as possible, while still robust. Give provides robust reporting in ways neither Woo nor Gravity Forms can do. PayPal Standard is the most accessible and widely used of payment gateways which makes it very relevant to smaller non-profits. Offline donations is also part of the Core of Give and is also very useful for non-profits. Plus, we’re in 0.8 beta, which means there’s still a lot of room for growth and added features to the free Core.

          If you have a need to implement a donation solution for a non-profit that you’re working with, feel free to contact us. We’d be happy to help see how Give might suit your needs.

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        • Kalen Johnson (@Kalenjohnson)

          I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of how plugins are written. For one, why do you believe that every payment gateway was developed in the core plugin and then “stripped away”? And I’m not sure why you feel that the plugin should include all these extra payment gateways to give you the options.

          And FYI, although there are more paid plugins/extensions with Woocommerce, they do the exact same thing by only offering Paypal Standard and charging for each additional payment gateway. I’m not sure why Woocommerce could be considered different in any way. Is it just that they invite other developers to also sell plugins?

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  5. eherman24

    Hey Matt and Devin, congrats on the great looking plugin! Looking forward to getting my hands on it and playing around with it. As a TA to some Girl Develop It WordPress classes here in Philly, I’m very happy to see you partnered with them on this!

    Great job!

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  6. Janus

    Looks good sad it has not been translated to many languages yet and i am too lazy to translate the almost 1100 strings.

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    • devinwalker

      Hopefully soon our plugin will be selected to be translated by WordPress.org community volunteers! We’re working on translating it into more languages. :)

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