1. Tim

    Very interesting and helpful readout. Thanks for taking the time to get this together. (found it through twitter!! http://twitter.com/iandstewart)

    I’ve thoroughly been enjoying playing with each of these and other frameworks. The first two in the table have my vote for usability and the ability to start developing right out of the box. I’ll be following what happens over at dan-cole!

    Thanks again for contributing!


  2. Ozh

    Excellent article.

    I usually hate 2 word comments, but I really have nothing to add, this is an excellent article :)


  3. Brian Meagher

    Great comparison article.
    Good timing as I’m “this close” to plunk down $87 for Thesis. Maybe I’ll look at Thematic again.
    Wish you could’ve included a few more themes in the chart, but we can make our own charts based on your criteria.
    Thanks Dan. I did look at Parallel, but it’s not for me.
    Also discovered the hardest word in the world to spell, PARALLEL. After LOUISIANA and MEDITERRANEAN. :)


  4. Trace

    Would loved to have seen Thesis in there… think it is a better candidate than Carrington….if forced to choose between three…


  5. Jeffro

    @Tim – Thanks for the great feedback and yeah, Dan deserves all the credit this time around.

    @Ozh – Hey Ozh, nice to see you :) Thanks for the feedback. I remember Dan telling me that based on the feedback this post receives, he would certainly look into creating a follow up post with the frameworks which didn’t make it in this edition.

    @Brian Meagher – Hey Brian. Yeah, because of size constraints on the blog, he didn’t add anymore to this post. There is also Ptah Dunbars WPFramework as well that you might want to look into as well.

    @Trace – Perhaps it will be added if Dan decides to do another framework roundup.


  6. Ian Stewart

    It sure is neat seeing everything stacked up in a table like this. Thanks for doing this Dan (and Jeff).


  7. Jeffro

    @Ian Stewart – I’d say based on the feedback the post has received already, Dan will most likely create a second roundup. But, we’ll see. Thanks for the Stumbles :)


  8. Ian Stewart

    Oh, and as of today there are 17 Thematic Child Themes. :) A magazine-style theme no less.


  9. Dan Cole

    @Everyone – Thanks for the all the nice comments. There are a lot of different types of themes out there and hopefully everyone will find one that meets their needs. I’m interested in doing a second round some time in the near future. I too feel that WP Framework and Thesis should be in the next patch of frameworks. The only down fall to writing up a post for themes like this, is that it’s out of date the minute you publish it.

    @Brian Meagher – Parallel was an interesting choice for me to go with. I’m not sure if I’ve ever explained why I went with that name, if anyone has looked into that. I guess I didn’t think it would be hard to spell, but I use the word everyday.


  10. Justin Tadlock

    Dan, well done. I don’t really like big comparison charts sometimes, but this was nice. It helps me see what the other themes have that Hybrid doesn’t in a clear and readable chart. It gives me a chance to reevaluate whether I’d like to add more or change anything.

    The biggest thing I’d like to get rid of is the huge theme download size. I suspect version 0.6 will be much smaller.

    Since Jeff is actually using the Hybrid theme here on this site, he needs to stop by my support forums so I can show him how to get rid of the sidebar for posts with large tables. ;)


  11. Brad Potter

    Great post Dan! Thanks for putting your time and effort into writing it. A huge thanks to developers like Ian, Justin and Alex for creating such great code. My only problem now is choosing between Thematic or Hybrid which are my favorites out of those three.

    Could Ian and Justin get together and create the ultimate theme framework?
    Perhaps it could be called Hybratic or Themebrid.


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  15. Peter Kahoun

    It’s interesting. I mean, it’s interesting to see what other people include into their framework-templates. But I have no idea how could anybody make a decision based on this comparing sheet. I just don’t think these numbers and lists matter… For me, the quality of theme/fw is in compromise of functionality and simplicity and this is hardly measureable, definitely a subjective thing, no sheet data. :-)


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  18. gelay Jamtsho

    Great comparison. Personally I have used Thematic, and I have had a very pleasant experience.


  19. Dian

    This chart is legend… wait for it… dary :D
    hope to see your next update on the chart :)


  20. knight


    nice comparison , but i was wonder for this section “Type of aid for hook and filter locations” , isn’t that hybrid only showing this to paid member only ?


  21. Jeffro

    @gelay Jamtsho – Sounds like there is a decent sized club of people who have had the same experience with Thematic.

    @Dian – Thanks. Dan gets the credit and I hope to see a future update from him as well.

    @knight – Yes, it’s in the documentation but the documentation can not be viewed unless you purchase a membership to the club.


  22. Ronald

    Do have a look at The Buffet Framework, amazing GL licensed framework using blueprint/grid960 and available through Subversion: http://www.zy.sg/the-buffet-framework/


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  36. WebMatros

    Nice overview.

    Me? I’m still not sure whether I’ll go with Hybrid or Thematic…

    Sitepoint recently released a book called Wicked WordPress or something along those lines. It shows how to use the Thematic framework, which is a big plus for me, since it’s great to have a real book handy when learning something new. Hybrid does not have such a neat book, AFAIK;-)

    But Hybrid is sweet in other aspects, so… I’m still unable to decide. I think I’ll just pick one or the other for my next project, and then the remaining one for the next project after that. I think I need actual practice and real life experience with both Hybrid and Thematic in order to find my favourite.


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