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  1. Andy Christian

    “73% of respondents said they contributed to bbPress development.”

    The bar graph says 73% did NOT contribute to bbPress. Which is correct?

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  2. Thanks for the post Jeff, just like the survey which I am still digesting, there are a few things for us to think about here, some obvious such as core features requested and others more ideological in nature such as the role forums play in the new web ‘social’ era.

    I have most of the bbPress codex saved in bookmarks and I end up where I need to be after logging in if needed, I’ll go take a look at the weird login problem you mention shortly.

    I have no idea where you came upon the codex article you mention that 404′s, there has never been a page like this on the bbPress Codex. There ‘is’ a codex page with that title on the BuddyPress codex here along with the parent page. The closest bbPress has is this Get Involved page, either or we probably should have something along the same lines as BuddyPress on the bbPress codex.

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  3. Melson

    @netweb: the dead link is displayed prominently on the bbPress Codex homepage, in the grey footer area under the header WANT TO HELP?

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    1. Ha! Thanks for this, I only went looking for the page, that link now works and a page now exists there.

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  4. phpBB is getting very old now, but it seems to be the only one left worth using for dedicated heavy duty forums.

    bbPress serves a much needed purpose and is the only one I know of which adequately fills that niche. SimplePress is not the way to go IMO.

    If I were setting up a dedicated social community, centered around a forum, I’d probably use phpBB due to all the extra features. All my forums are currently on bbPress though, as I don’t have any heavy duty forums, just simple question and answer type sites. I also hear good things about the performance of phpBB vs bbPress, which doesn’t surprise me since WordPress has quite a few problems in that area.

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  5. For me, a big uncertainty about the future of bbPress is that it’s mostly just JJJ. He has his hands in a lot, leading to slow development on bbPress. If he were to leave the project for some reason, it could die. Unlike Buddypress, which has a number of core contributors.

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    1. Robin

      The real issue is that no one in bbpress talks about this, they totally ignore it. In fact, it is very simple to remedy! But first you have to accept that there is something to solve or something to improve upon.

      Last post is from November 2013 saying that 2.5 release is overdue:
      https://bbpdevel.wordpress.com

      bbpress 2.6 is more than 4 months late (according to the official timeline – which isn’t saying much since bbpress releases regularly get booted by 1 or more months)

      https://bbpress.trac.wordpress.org/milestone/2.6

      All JJJ has to do is approach wp and say, hey, I really need some help. the project is suffering and falling way behind so can we get 2-3 other devs up in here? thanks

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  6. XenForo is actually a forum package for webmasters to consider. Many large forum sites are moving to the software. The forums are under constant development. The community is fast in helping someone. And replacing/ integrating WP comments is easy with several different available bridges.

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  7. Robin

    It is really unfortunate that wordpress and the current team which holds the reins of bbpress have both ignored bbpress development. The history of bbpress shows it to be an “ugly stepchild” where it is tolerated at best and ignored most of the time. Development has gone through herky jerky stops and starts spanning years and many months:

    http://www.ohloh.net/p/bbpress/commits/summary

    While other apps – for example muut which introduced their wp plugin recently – have taken the lead, bbpress has lagged behind and is continuing to fall more and more as development stalls.

    This is very difficult for the typical user to understand. If you need more manpower, ask for it. If you need more resources, pipe up and say so! There is no question that many would rise up and answer the challenge to contribute and take an active role.

    But that requires the current “powers that be” to first acknowledge this and to ask for help. They are refusing to do that for the moment and as such they are part of the problem, not the solution.

    What is more astonishing is that they even refuse to acknowledge existing shortcomings of bbpress which are so obvious to everyone else! An example of this is the flat out refusal to even consider that permalinks are broken:

    http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/any-way-to-eliminate-redundancyweirdness-in-permalinks-i-e-forumsforum/

    Hope this changes as bbpress has much unrealized potential.

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  8. The thing that BBPress did right was posts and such as custom post types. It is so deeply integrated into WordPress that I would argue that it pounds the competition when it comes to finding a forum software to use in a WordPress site.

    This is important in so many ways from user management, integration, theming and so on. SimplePress does a good job, but it is still just a shell inside WordPress. BBpress is WordPress.

    It absolutely has a long way to go, it is still hard to theme (but has gotten a lot better) and lacks basic forums features (though, for what its worth, various plugins have been covering lately). My biggest issue is the theming. Having built out a BBPress theme (ironically for the Stargazer theme that this site uses), I spent more time taking stuff away before I could start building it up. I’d like to see (and I mentioned it to the devs when I took the survey) is a default BBPress look that is clean and streamlined, one that looks good on its own (a la Vanilla Forums), but lends itself to customization that doesn’t require tearing it down first.

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  9. Even though there are a few bbPress features I wish for, I know that not everyone needs all possible features. So I’m happy with many things being relegated to plugins.

    I actually see the slim feature set as a plus. A lot of forum software is bloated and hard to use for both users and administrators. I appreciate the light footprint that can be added to as needed.

    Plus, the tight WordPress integration is a killer feature that outweighs a few gaps in other areas.

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