@Patrick Daly - There is a balance to be had between enough theme options and too many theme options. But up until Builder, in a sense Genesis, and Elastic, every single one of these 'theme framework's that came out in 2009 were made by developers, for developers. That is of no use to me, the common layman.

Theme developer says, I need to be more efficient. Instead of repeating code, why not create a framework as my base and use that to create themes from. So developer builds it and then figures what the heck, and releases it into the wild. Each theme framework is built by a person with a different mindset on how things should be. Good to have choices, no doubt about that, but they are still frameworks made by developers, for developers. The overall trend is toward frameworks and child themes which I think makes things a bigger pain in the ass than they need to be.

This is why I'm such a big fan of builder, elastic and others like it. It's my idea of a framework. Just give me something that provides me flexibility without touching code, doesn't have a zillion options and the icing on the cake is a style or visual editor that makes it easy for me to apply design elements to the layout portion of the design. That is what I want. No one provides that yet. The closest thing to that is Builder who is currently working on the visual editor part of the equation.