Great episode - Pippin's honesty and openness when talking about the ups and downs of business is admirable.

It's interesting to hear his views on Gutenberg at 1:11:00

You have to ask, "why is there an urgency?".

The urgency to me says that WordPress is no longer owned by the open source community.

WordPress is owned by a bunch of investors that have a lot of money and a lot of stake in WordPress having a bigger stake of the web than something like Shopify, Wix, Squarespace, etc.

So the urgency to release this out is in an effort to appease investors that are worried about WordPress's future and WordPress staying relevant in the world of Squarespace.

I think that the development decisions and what's being allowed to happen inside of Wordpress todays is driven by money, and I think that's really unfortunate.