In reply to EyesX.

Seconding this.

My observation of the Gutenberg team was "Hey, pretty please, rather than just acting upset, can you give us useful details that could improve things?"

Some people didn't or just whined more, others contributed.

Here's the rub, though: if you don't want a vocal minority controlling things, BE VOCAL yourself. The other 90% should say something, not be upset that things are moving in the way that the 10% who offered something suggested.

But it really didn't even play out like that. Things didn't get fixed or responded to for months on end, if at all. Which, hey, you can't take everyone's advice and you definitely can't make everyone happy (especially when different people want different things).

But the silence was to the level of ignoring, even if they did respond by offering feedback, and worse yet, more so than any "professional" team I've seen in a long time, there was a lot of rudeness and negativity. Again, it happens and it's human and they were getting rude flak from other immature people. But it doesn't belong in the process. I even saw repository/forum mods having to tell them to stop antagonizing people and stay focused. Wild.

It wasn't even a couple months ago we were told that v5 wasn't been held up just for an event, and then the release got delayed from the holiday....to be released the day before an event.

Nobody's asking for their way or total domination. They're asking for opennness and transparency and being treated like adults.