In reply to Steve Pheriche.

I hate to be negative and so have held off on criticising Gutenberg in order to give it a fair chance, but why on earth is Gutenberg still going?

It has been clear from very early on that the vast majority of WordPress users do not want this awful contraption that is taking us backwards and not forwards. Just take a look at the reviews on wordpress.org for the Gutenberg plugin.

And no it's not just because it has a few bugs. The UI is awful and end users do not find it intuitive or easy to use. And that is both existing WordPress end users and end users new to WordPress. I know, because I deal with both regularly.

I agree with other comments that Gutenberg doesn't remove the need for page builder plugins like Elementor, but makes you realise how advanced and well designed they are. Kudos to those companies and teams if you're reading. Really!

In the same way, I also agree with Anh Tran's comment. I believe Multilingualism is a very important feature of a CMS just as SEO and creating a Network is. However, I believe this to be a WordPress problem NOT a Gutenberg problem.

Right now I have just been given the go ahead on a large project. This company wanted to have their site redeveloped for a little while now, but wanted to hold off until after Gutenberg was released.

Having spent a few months initially trying to get to grips with Gutenberg and then more recently waiting to see whether WordPress will accept it as a failure and alter course they can now wait no longer.

They hate Gutenberg so much and were worried they would be forced to use it at some point in the future that they rejected my proposal to use WordPress for the new site, even though it is what they are currently using and requested that I offer an alternative CMS or custom built solution.

Based on this I pitched Classic Press (classicpress. net) explaining it is WordPress minus Gutenberg and they were immediately onboard with this.

So the conclusion from my experience is end users hate Gutenberg with a passion, and there are already many strong, we developed and better Page Builders and Multilingual plugin alternatives in the community than stepping back in time and using Gutenberg.

I really hope WordPress will start to listen to its userbase and rethink Gutenberg. Rather than continuing the approach of the Gutenber eating WordPress line of thinking where everything from menus, widgets, headers, footers, the content editor and now mutlilingual functionality is all just a part of Gutenberg. It's becoming like a completely different product like WordPress and Drupal. Why not just call it Gutenberg and keep the old WordPress as it was and then see who opts for what?