1. Sébastien Dumont

    “I am unsure how I feel about this change. In practice, it almost feels like clicking the icon should take me to the front end of the site instead of the post management screen. At least with the WordPress icon, it felt like it was pointing toward an admin-side screen instead. For my workflow, I would rather see this link/icon replaced with a button that toggles between fullscreen and normal mode, popping the admin menu back into place rather than departing the editing screen altogether.”

    I completely agree. This change made no sense to me. Either put it back to the WP logo or change to a toggle fullscreen button.


    • Nick

      +1 for ” popping the admin menu back into place rather than departing the editing screen altogether”.

      Anything else is as crazy as removing the ability to click and drag blocks when the toolbar is set on top !

      P.S. (warning: off topic) Are they really going to release a major version in a few days without having the accordions in the block inserter? Mind you that we are year and a half+ after Matt declared Gutenberg is ready for the masses – yeah, it’s getting better, much better actually, but it still can’t compete with even the most average page builders without a lot of help from plugins (Editorskit, Block CSS, etc…) and custom blocks.

      Also, something must be done with the Pattern previews, as if you have too many of them, especially if the patterns are full pages (many vertical blocks), it takes several seconds to load. How are themes and plugins supposed to serve dozens of these patterns in this condition?



    WordPress developers should put themselves in the shoes of the average Joe which is the major user of WP.

    Developing a workflow that is tailored towards geeks, devs, coders and technical people is the wrong approach.

    The average Joe doesn’t use software where dragging is happening with page velocity move.

    The average Joe doesn’t have a clue if a paragraph symbol is actually the place from which he can drag something.

    The average Joe doesn’t know what CSS is.

    The average Joe would expect to see a navigational menu and to use a a left corner button to make it appear.

    The whole Gutenberg project looks like build from devs and tailored towards technical people working on laptop.

    It doesn’t embrace simplicity and ease of use with common UI and UX practices tailored for the average consumer.

    The result is all these negative stars on the WP Gutenberg page. I work with many clients and from all of them just one and now two prefer the new editor.

    I am fan of the block idea, but the implementation is still not baked.

    Please hire someone to run consumer servers on large scale and get their feedback rather than providing geeky solutions that the general public hates.


    • Vladimir

      I completely agree!

      If the simplicity of the classic editor is not integrated into Gutenberg, at least up to version 10. I will forever abandon the idea of ​​using Gutenberg and mark Gutenberg as a failed project.

      Nowadays it’s almost impossible to use it for large articles with lots of media, shortcodes and other elements. it takes 5 times more time than in the classic editor. Allocated a day to compare. The result is vary sad.


      • MSMMST

        You are totally right, and on large pages, the so called “long form content” there is an extreme lag if you embed lots of images due to some issue that produces the lag and is multiplying. I have a maxed out iMac with 32GB RAM and i7 6700K and it still lags. I can’t even type normally, it’s like the whole browser is into an extreme stress. This is an addition to everything wrong with the editor. Again, I like changes, I love changes, I embrace changes, I love blocks idea, the implementation is horrible.

        I can imagine people with 10-20-30 pages sites which remain static to use the Gutenberg editor, but I can’t imagine professional magazines, blogs and news agencies using Gutenberg to write long form, pillar content type of articles.

        I was thinking it’s just me, but it looks like my clients are on the same page [I didn’t influence their opinion, I actually tried to convince them to continue use the editor as it will “improve” in order to save myself some time.]

        @Matt, please do something about it, Gutenberg needs change now!


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