In the past few years, for various reasons, I have used Elementor, Beaver Builder Pro, Divi Builder plugin (and the theme version), WPBakery Page Builder (formerly known as Visual Composer), SiteOrigin Page Builder, plus one or two others, to develop sites both for myself and for clients.

Although most of these page editors have some good points, very few of them are notably good overall, and don't produce the clean code that makes for a fast website, so they are not the tools I choose to have in my toolbox, and rely on.

All, bar a couple, are worse than Gutenberg in many respects. But those two are so far ahead ~ and will probably stay ahead ~ that it makes Gutenberg an interesting distraction, but pointless.

As JJJ said in the podcast. Its just an editor and doesn't address the underlying end-user dissatisfaction with WordPress's content creation and editing experience.

If anything, it flys in the face of it.

What's needed is an elegant, front-end, WYSIWYG page editor. And this Gutenberg is not.