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  1. Looks good but I’ve got GA code on all my sites.
    Don’t think I have anything that I want to keep secret so I’ll probably stay with GA.

    Thanks for the heads up Sarah and congrats on the new site layout – nice and bright.

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    • I do agree with you Keith, most of the sites do not have any reason to hide their analytics data from Google.

      The ones that do want to do this in my experience are usually some spammy sites built only to improve “mother site” ranking.

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      • Jesus Christ, that mentality of people oblivious to stuff happening around them. It’s not “bad things” you’d hide from Google, but the private data of your customers/visitors.

        Why do you think GA is free? They are interested in your visitors data, which is your payment for their service. They use that data to serve even more personalized ads to even more people based on that spying network you’re a part of. If you’re fine with that, cool, but not everyone wants Facebooks, Twitters and Googles know every little thing about them.

        How much a corporate brainwash can accomplish.

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      • Richard

        Keith and Greg are way off on this one. The economic and privacy implications of having GA on your site is a huge detriment to your site. Significant economic loss happens when you give all your data away (For example, if you were bidding on an auction, would it make sense to tell who you are bidding against how much you are willing to pay?). And the privacy problems are horrible, one company having a complete trail of where you go on the net and what you do, and then they can tie that in by reading your gmails. The golden rule of data…

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  2. I’m assuming I’m not the only one reading this that had no idea Piwik existed. I’ve been so trained to use GA for years. Thanks Sarah.

    For anyone else out there who’s curious, it’s really easy to setup. They recommend creating your own database, but I just installed it on my existing WP database (WP Engine as a host). And I used the WP-Piwik plugin to add the tracking code.

    Appears to be running well, but will give it some time to check on data. I would recommend a separate database because it adds 20 tables to the DB.

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    • Andrew

      I’d never heard of it either but from the demo it looks really good, definitely one to have a closer look at in the New Year, thanks Sarah :-)

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    • It’s a good idea to use Piwik- not only to protect your data, but mostly to protect personal information about your users. If you don’t want to set up it on your own you can also use a Cloud version from Piwik PRO. Thanks for a post Sarah.

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  3. I’m using Piwik on my site and I’m pretty happy with it. For some reason GA refused to work, so I was kinda forced to try it, but hell, I’m sticking with it cause it’s quite powerfull and easy to use.

    People should at least give it a try IMHO, nothing to lose, but you could gain a lot.

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  4. Hi Guys,

    I’m getting fed up with Google analytics, moreso as my new blog is growing seriously in traffic.

    What is the cost of using this program from Piwik?

    Thank you

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    • It’s good that more and more people are aware of problems with Google Analytics and that they want to take care of privacy of their clients.

      Piwik is a free web analytics which you can install on your own on your server.

      If you want to use a Piwik Cloud option, the prices start from 49 EURO/ 65 USD.

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  5. I first started using Piwik a few years ago when I realized that all our analytics was tied to my Google account, and I didn’t want to share that info with my employer. Adding Piwik to the mix meant faster loading since it was hosted on my servers, and passing the data off to the next developer wasn’t a problem since the organization owned it all themselves.

    I’d recommend using Piwik for sites that you’re building for a client so when you hand them the keys they have all the data in place already and there’s no need to create new Google accounts just to share the data.

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  6. I tried to use Piwik for about 8 months two years ago, on both a custom server setup, and on a recommended hosting setup at Arvixe, and there was just too much data for it to handle just one of my big media sites unless I purged everything every 2 weeks, which entirely defeated the purpose of having the historical visitor data that I wanted.

    I spent weeks importing several hundred gig of raw http logs for it to crunch the data, so I could compare the numbers in Piwik to what GA was showing me, and while I loved the potential in it, I was unable to keep using it… the hosting company kept dinging me for database and resource usage, and their asynchronous tracking was actually slowing down my website’s response time.

    I hated doing it, but I gave up and removed it and imploded the Piwik setup, canceled my account at Arvixe, and have since gone back to just GA. It was a fun test, I just wish I could have duplicated what other people said, that they were able to track sites with tens of thousands of visitors per day with no problem. I wasn’t able to.

    If they’ve fixed the resource gobbling issues it might be worth playing around with again, but it won’t be very high on my to-do list at the moment :)

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  7. Never heard about Piwik but the way it demonstrates, indeed, it is really easy to set up. GA must speed up.

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  8. I also read about the fact that Piwik is resource intensive… it would be interesting to hear some comments regarding this issue from Piwik authors ;)

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    • Matt

      Piwik does work under high load, to a certain point, depending on your hardware, server configurations, and various other things.

      We are running it with customers with a LOT of data (+50M pages per month). There are challenges and several tweaks we make so it works well under such high load… If you have a big website (or thousands of small-medium ones), maybe get in touch at http://piwik.pro/contact for professional support, we can fully setup & monitor Piwik on your infrastructure, or run it on the Piwik PRO Cloud (hosted in Europe/Germany).

      If you have 1 million pageviews per month or less, then it should work out of the box, on a good server, without special configuration.

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  9. Claude LaBadie

    Piwik is just what we need. I am starting a new service using this outstanding analytic software. I am calling it Gonalytics. SEO expert who tested it will tell you that adding GA or Webmaster tools from the big G see a fall in the search result position rank of the website in question.
    The access of all tracking and other data about your site to the same monopoly driven giant is not good either as it gives them too much opportunities to manipulate the rest of us.

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